Bumping this, hope no one minds.
So we know there is an inquest going on, Paul Burrell has just testified, the filthy toad, and been torn apart on the stand.
What do you think the outcome will be? Accident or murder?
I'm a conspiracy theorist. I have always believe Diana was murdered by the Royal Family to prevent her marrying Dodi, a Muslim.
I hope the inquest returns a murder verdict, then heads will surely roll.
I remember first hearing about Diana's death - I was in my room, reading, when my sister entered and told me Diana was seriously ill after being in a car accident. I was shocked, and half an hour later, my sister returned with the news Diana had died.
It was all over the news - reports and documentaries made years earlier filled the screen.
News of her death didn't leave the front page for three weeks. Her funeral took up about 30 pages, and was broadcast live - all the networks turning it into a battle of ratings, as all networks were screening the funeral, from different angles.
It's hard to believe it's been more than ten years since she died. Sure, she may have had her problems, the Royal's certainly thought she was a nutcase, but the public loved her, and to them, when she died, they lost a best friend.
Australian reporters who travelled to England to report on the tragedy said, that when they stepped off the aeroplane, there was silence. No one said a word, no one was in the streets, the atmosphere was just - silent.
That's the impact her death had. To silence an entire country, you've got to be someone pretty special.
In my opinion, Diana is popular in death the same way that Bill Hicks and Johnny Cash are. Nobody really idolized them or made them into deities until their deaths. It's "cool" to like Johnny Cash and Diana nowadays because of their "significant impact". The same exact can be said for Frank Sinatra, Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope, and most any other over-hyped figure of the last 50 years.
I can't wait until another U.S. ex-president dies or, say, another famous musician. They will instantly become another pop culture icon.
Bill Hicks and Johnny Cash actually gave things to people that enhanced their lives, from their hearts, with genuine talent.
Diana stood around some African children pretending to help, saying it wasn't about her, when in reality she could have gone and given them a lot of money. Coincidentally enough, anything "good" she did was always filmed by British news cameras. She was "rejected" by the monarchy and every knee-jerking, The Sun reading idiot in this country embraced her because they thought she was now "One of us".
I'm glad she's gone, personally. Actually, no, I take that back. If she wasn't dead, I wouldn't be hearing about how she's dead and people wouldn't be talking about it 10 years on. I was 12 when she died, I think, 11 or 12. I dislike that I'm still hearing about it.
-AC
I can agree to that.
By the way, that wasn't a cheap shot at Bill or Johnny. I love the both of them, seeing as how I've been listening to Cash for most of my life and I discovered Hicks' genius just before he died. Talented, indeed.
I just meant that Diana was more of a "poster image" rather than the real deal, if you ask me, and her death rocketed her already needlessly high image even higher.
I don't care.
She keeps herself to herself a bit more, but I care not for the Monarchy. I don't even think there should be one, it's in no way a representation of what England is nowadays, it's archaic and needs to just be gone. The country wouldn't suffer for it.
The only people who seem to want it are the people who feel that this country represents their own personal identity, I do not, so I couldn't give a sh*t.
Queen Elizabeth; indifference on my part. I dread the press, I dread the hysteria.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Bill Hicks and Johnny Cash actually gave things to people that enhanced their lives, from their hearts, with genuine talent.Diana stood around some African children pretending to help, saying it wasn't about her, when in reality she could have gone and given them a lot of money. Coincidentally enough, anything "good" she did was always filmed by British news cameras. She was "rejected" by the monarchy and every knee-jerking, The Sun reading idiot in this country embraced her because they thought she was now "One of us".
I'm glad she's gone, personally. Actually, no, I take that back. If she wasn't dead, I wouldn't be hearing about how she's dead and people wouldn't be talking about it 10 years on. I was 12 when she died, I think, 11 or 12. I dislike that I'm still hearing about it.
-AC
Well, I don't really agree with what you have said - she helped people and there are facts confirming it. She was a beautiful and strong woman. Some loved her, some hated but there was no one indifferent. That's it.
Originally posted by primavera11people help people every day. The only reason she is still being mourned is because she was famous.
Well, I don't really agree with what you have said - she helped people and there are facts confirming it. She was a beautiful and strong woman. Some loved her, some hated but there was no one indifferent. That's it.
Originally posted by Tempe Brennan
Australian reporters who travelled to England to report on the tragedy said, that when they stepped off the aeroplane, there was silence. No one said a word, no one was in the streets, the atmosphere was just - silent.
That's the impact her death had. To silence an entire country, you've got to be someone pretty special.
Maybe, if it was true.
But those reporters were simply lying. Nothing even remotely like that happened.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Maybe, if it was true.But those reporters were simply lying. Nothing even remotely like that happened.
Well, this was not just one reporter - it was many. Perhaps there were certain parts of England more affected that others, shall we say?
I don't know. I assume you live in England, so I don't disbelieve you, but I nor do I disbelieve the people that travelled to England to report on the crash.
It's nice to think that people were affacted in such a way it silenced them, though. Diana must have been someone special indeed.
Yes I live in England, yes, lots of reporters said that sort of thing, no, it was not true; it was sensationalist reporting that was very quickly debunked; I assure you there is not one tiny bit of truth in such words. If you do believe such journalism then more fool you (though judging by what you believe about conspiracy theories relating to her death you are pushing fairly well in that direction anyway); all it is doing is trying to conform to a romantic notion of how things are that reads well in papers bit is just so much horseshit- and the most dreadful stereotyping of the British people to believe, close to insulting.
I don't know anyone who was in any way greatly affected by Diana's death, nor do I know anyone who KNOWS anyone who was affected so. I DO know that all these myths about her having this following throughout the country have spread despite there not being any tiny bits of substance to them; as Ian Hislop (editor of Private Eye and hence a journalist with a huge amount of interest in Diana) commented, we were told that all kinds followed her like a cult, but look at the pictures of those at memorials and other events surrounding her death and what do you see? Mostly women, mostly white, mostly middle-age, mostly middle-class. The following, the odd fanatic exception aside, was actually very narrow.
Trust me, the average person couldn't give a toss for Diana who was a rich dilettante who used self-pity to get more of what she wanted and whilst claiming to be the one in touch of the people spent her time going around being photographed on yachts trying to seduce the rich and famous. That hardly makes her the devil as many rich people live like that- but there is nothing that made her a saint, and CERTAINLY nothing she has ever done more than any other Royal Princess did, excepy she was the looker so people tended to assume she was therefore the angel.