Apocalypse Vs Thanos?

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Went and purchased it.

Re: Thanos "not being connected to it," debate anyone on the internet regarding Thanos vs. Darkseid, Green Lantern, whomever. He will have The Infinity Gauntlet. Thanos is inextricably linked to The Infinity Gauntlet.

Review it? Grrr...

Cover, she's in the traditional green and gold costume. Phoenix is out cruising and spots energy signatures from Galactus' machinery. She tells Galactus that he must cease all activity at once; Galactus says "I will brook no interference. I have need of sustenance." Phoenix pledges to stop him, no matter the cost.

Now.

They only show panels of the battle similar to Paul Smith's illustration of the Wolverine/Silver Samurai battle in Uncanny #173ish. No dialogue until Galactus falls. Anywho...

First page: Fight looks even. Second page: You can definitely tell that the tide is turning. Only word on the panel is "Meanwhile..." Phoenix is shown deflecting his eyeblasts. Third page: Shows Phoenix directing a blast in Galactus' right eye. Looks as if his helmet is short-circuiting. He misses a blast with his left hand, and is falling backward, right hand raised similar to one shielding one's eyes from the sun. Fourth page: actually this one has several panels. First shows Galactus' mouth opening, energy pouring from both eyes. Second shows Galactus falling, energy (smoke? cannot be, it is yellowish) trailing from him. One hand is on the ground. Third shows has him laying on his stomach, and the dialogue ensues wherein Phoenix learns more about the nature of The Phoenix Force.

His entire helmet/mask has cracks in it, and the area on which he stands looks like ground zero.

He was...Karl Mallowned in that encounter. Phoenix departs after their dialogue; Galactus resumes feeding.

Apoc vs Thany?? Hmmm tuff one
I would say Thanos wins, coz he has the power of the gods
while Apoc just thinks he is a god 🙂

They feud in the new thanos series, but galactus realises what thanos intended to do and turned on hunger

Thanos was not more pwerful than the tribunal...eternity begged the tribunal to stop Thanos and the tribunal snuffed him out...even with the guantlet.

Two things. Here is the quote in case you missed it as regards to who is more powerful between Thanos and LT:

I keep saying...Thanos with the Heart of the Universe.

And Thanos already defeated Living Tribunal.

if thanos doesent got the gauntlet then hill deffently lose

I will wager existance is not about power but about being. Apocalypse has mastered aging to agelessness and all his achievements are within his ownership. The mere fact that he persues power is nothing more than a distraction to those who want it. Plus his mutant power to turn his body into manuverable apparal is to bad.

Infinity gauntlet or no infintity gauntlet Thanos would still beat on apacolypse, bad. When Thanos did have the infinty gauntlet he was unstopable, im sure he killed eternity but im not sure and the only reason he lost it was because he was trying to impress death by showing he could defeat the remaining heros without it, wich he did, hulk,silver surfer, galactus?? not sure, captain marvel and varias others. but im a little rusty on Thanos :/

If you develope your own powers like Apocalypse your being is not of this eternity. Thus someone who destroys it can't destroy you. Even in the bible God's promise is that what is for you is not of this Eternity.

with out gunlet he loses there no dought with it well there no dought he win

for all who says thanos will win, let's not count apocalypse out just yet. neither has said to have a specific limit to thier strength. well wait, actually apocalypse has. his strength is unlimited. he doesn't have to get mad, or subconsciously will himself stronger, he simply is. thanos has taken on powerful beings before and shown to be superior, but that doesn't mean he has no limits in strength. strength advantage apocalypse. apocalypse also is a warrior born and raised. even before his mutant powers were given birth he was extremely skilled in the usage of weapons and of his own body. fighting ability again apocalypse. apocalypse has mastered time travel, and has lived for 5000 years since his birth. he has more than enough experience at his disposal to hold his own with thanos. both are immortal. both are basically almost indestructable. let's also look at other abilities. apocalypse can shape his body to any outward appearance he can imagine. on top of all this, he can grant himself any power he so chooses. And i do mean any power. he can mold shape and grant himself any power. a powerful gift if you ask me. also, let's look at intelligence. thanos is probably more intelligent given that he has seen things and experienced things beyond just earth based travels such as apocalypse. but his intelligence isn't all that much greater. i'm not sure what the person meant when creating this thread, but i'm sure it wasn't thanos with the gauntlet or thanos controlling the heart of the universe vs. apocalypse. so we will stick with just apocalypse vs. thanos at normal levels of power. i'd say with all else being just about even apocalypse should win with his diversity experience and intelligence.

not to mention he can further augment himself (like thanos already did) using celestial technology. which is amongst the most advanced anywhere. more advanced than thanos can concieve of.

Yes, now let me state Thanos powers.
Thanos has durability reaching off the scale, he once fought the Magus to a standstill, and displayed no injuries after being knocked down. In a later battle, he withstood the combined assault of the Thing and Thor with no apparent injury. He also fought Galactus and easily withstood the battle, against someone who had shrugged off the combined assault of the Silver Surfer, Beta-Ray Bill, Terrax, Ganymede, Jack of Hearts, Morg, and Gladiator. Thanos needs no food,air or water and is immortal. His healing ability is so immense that he can pinpoint the source of pain, injury and heal it with in minutes. Before Thanos died and was brought back to life by death he contained class 100 strength this clearly places him in a class alongside such beings as Thor and the Hulk in the strength department. While it is not proven that Death increased his strength along with his resilience and other abilities, it is assumed that she did so. However, the level to which it was increased is unknown. One topic of frequent debate revolves around whether or not Thanos' base strength is greater than the base level of strength for the Hulk. An incident during the Infinity War leans towards the fact that under normal circumstances, Thanos is stronger than the Hulk. Fans of the giant, naturally, refuse this...ignoring the ability of one of the two key forces of this universe ( Namely Death ) to augment anyone to nearly any level she so chooses. Like other cosmic Eternals, Thanos is sustained by cosmic energy. No amount of pure physical exertion can tire him because his metabolism is sustained by this energy. Only sustained usage of cosmic energy can tire him appreciably. Thanos' reflexes and speed are above normal human levels. While not able to compete in this area at the level of speedier, more agile heroes like Spider-Man, Thanos is far faster than a being of his size ( 6'7" in height, 985 lbs of mass. ) should have a right to be. Thanos has also displayed Telepathic abilities but The level of Thanos' telepathic prowess is unknown. It is presumed to be at a low level. When he decided to make a move against the Goddess during the Infinity Crusade, he employed the aid of Professor Charles Xavier to utilize his telepathic abilities. It bears mentioning that Xavier is ranked as arguably the most powerful psionic on Earth, and likely ranks among the top Psionics in the known Universe. Despite the presumably low level at which he is able to gain telepathic egress into another's mind, Thanos is a formidable psionic combatant, having shown prowess sufficient enough to defeat both Drax and Moondragon in mental combat. While willpower isn't a quality that can be easily measured...Thanos' force of will is the equal of anyone's. It has been theorized that Thanos possesses the innate ability to teleport himself over unknown distances...however the final answer is an inconclusive one. It is true that most cosmic Eternals possess the ability to teleport themselves and others psionically. Most Eternals find the process an unpleasant one, and usually prefer not to use the ability unless absolutely necessary. During Thanos' gambit against the Magus, he seemingly used his own teleportational abilities to teleport himself and his allies. He even mentioned the difficulty involved in teleporting others, due to the intense concentration required to accomplish the feat. Thanos has displayed great versatility in the use of his energy projection powers. Not only is he able to project energy as a concussive force, but he's also able to use the energy to form force-shields, concussion waves, gamma radiation bursts, infrared heat-beams, and disruptor beams. His chief uses of the cosmic energy he draws upon are in the forms of disruptor beams from his eyes, and concussion blasts from his hands. The exact level of force Thanos can exert through his concussion beams is unknown. It has been speculated that the nature of Thanos' cosmic energy reserve may be quasi-mystical in nature. Certainly comments made by Odin during his battle with the Mad Titan would lend support to this theory, as he stated that Thanos tapped into a reserve of 'Dark' power. Considering Thanos' knowledge of things arcane, it is quite possible that his energies are partially mystic in nature. Thanos may not be as accomplished in this area as others, such as the Eternal named Sersi, but he definitely is able to manipulate matter on the atomic level. He displayed this ability in one of his initial appearances when he turned the Skrull, Skragg, into stone. Bionics, since Thanos is in a new body, it seems unlikely that any bionic devices were carried over following his rebirth. Any devices he carries within him at this time would have been added at some point after the Infinity Gauntlet affair. Considering that his might had been augmented over its former staggering levels by Death, it seems unlikely that he would have a need for further physical enhancement. Thanos has not been seen to utilize spell magics in any of his appearances that I can recall. That doesn't mean that he doesn't know how to use spells, as it has been stated that he used mystical techniques alongside technilogical ones to increase his might. It is unknown what fighting arts Thanos knows. His knowledge of combat styles seems to be quite broad, as he instructed his ward, Gamora, training her to become the most lethal female assassin in known space. It is stated that he learned most of his fighting skills while dwelling in some of the most dangerous areas of known space following his banishment from Titan. He spent more than 80 years in these perilous environs, honing his deadly abilities. Evidence suggests that Thanos is the equal of any herald of Galactus, and is likely just a notch below a Skyfather ( Such as Odin and Zeus ) in terms of sheer power.
Now ur telling me that Apacolypse could beat Thanos? I would have to seriously doubt that.

most anything you typed about thanos can be said about apocalypse. he can harness virtually any type of power that he desires. through the use of his technologies he can augment strength (which is unlimited anyway, it isn't just set at "100" ton's) reflex's stamina (which he doesnt tire) and any other attributes that he already has. it's not impossible for thanos to lose here. it's likely that slip ups could occur on either side. i'm just saying don't count apocalypse out. he has had 5000 years experience, he is a trained warrior. he has no remorce. and he has the abilities to do what needs to be done here. also vice versa is true. thanos has ran with the best of them. so it could sway either way.

Goals in mind as well. Thanos is a godhood type with absolute power goals. Apocapalypse wants to create a race of mutants that have as varied and vast amounts as eachother. Thanos would face an endless # of all powerfull "Apocapalypses" vs one absolute power.

not sure what you are saying with that last post maelstrom. please clarify.

This would be an interesting battle...Jugfan and Magee have really good points...but I think Magee is right, if you look at the histories of who Apoc, and Thanos have considered worthy opponents, I think Odin is more impressive than cable and cyclops...I dont want to underestimate Apoc, he could be much more powerful than he seems, just never had a chance to show it off yet, he is a very mysterious villain...I think his conversation with Uatu (the watcher) during the Onslought battle shows there may be more going on than we think...Apoc is still learning, harnessing the knowledge of the celestials, eventually he could perhaps be right up there with Thanos...concerning Thanos' strength, it has been mentioned before, when they found that false corpse of his with the strength enhancers in the bone's, that Thanos' strength easily surpasses that of the Hulk's at normal conditions...I think his battle with earthly heroes like the Thing and Thor supports this...Although some say Apoc can achieve any powers he imagines, this is not true...he can enhance his own powers and imagine new one's that are analogous to the originals....but he hasnt shown he can spontaneously control the power cosmic, warp flight, or teleportation across vast distances or dimensions like Thanos...Thanos has enough power to destroy a moon, maybe even a planet...what could Apoc do against that?...If you examine their goals and their former battles, Apoc is not yet on the same level as Thanos.

ahhh, that makes perfect sense now that you explained it. not that magee's explanation wasn't good. i do think apoc could win though. it's not totally out of the question. but it does seem his goals, are just on a lesser level than thanos. also it seems that thanos has over the years accomplished more. i think that the writing they do on apoc is bad. he should easily be a match for all other mutants atleast.

This is wrong, Apocalypse has not been characterized as such (omnipotent) in ages.

Theoretically - or at one point - Apocalypse should have been in the same range as Thanos, but he is not.

Honestly..i think Thanos would beat Apoc...but he is not interesting and i would rather se more stories about Apoc