Nihilism

Science also has proven that chiness people are smarter then both black and white.I have no idea why?JMsmartass

big gay kirk, please get your sources for this ridiculous post in order - you are talking absolute crap and you know it.

Philo. Kirk is just making the point that science, like stats, can prove just about anything if they so desire. It may not be irrefutable, but it'll be enough for some to believe.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Philo. Kirk is just making the point that science, like stats, can prove just about anything if they so desire. It may not be irrefutable, but it'll be enough for some to believe.

exactly.

"do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law..."

Ok, but if science can proof anything it wants, that rule goes for everyone - everyone can proof anything then, which comes down to the meaninglessness of 'proof'. At least, anyone can prove anything to someone who will believe it.

But science invented many great technologies that we use today....the computers and internet capabilities we take part in for instance - so we can't just shoot down the whole of science while we use the product of its endeavors.

I think you just made his point. Though I do not want to speak for him, I believe his point is that science is a double edged sword.

Well, a double edged sword is quite powerfull, isn't it?

Originally posted by Philosophicus
Well, a double edged sword is quite powerfull, isn't it?

not, apparently, as mighty as the pen....

as mighty as the pen - what bullshit! A sword can cut a pen in half and a person holding a sword to the throught of a person with a pen in his hand can tell that person to write whatever he dictates!

Physically, a guy with a sword will kick the ass of the guy holding a ballpoint.

Ideologically, weapons are an means to an end, but it is words that shape history, it is with words that revolutions are started.

Personally, I believe that the will of a passionate man is more powerful than either.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Physically, a guy with a sword will kick the ass of the guy holding a ballpoint.

Ideologically, weapons are an means to an end, but it is words that shape history, it is with words that revolutions are started.

Personally, I believe that the will of a passionate man is more powerful than either.

Revolutions can be started by words, but not carried out by them - for that you'll need a weapon to physically destroy the status quo. Just look at history: all great revolutions have come from violent behaviour, nothing passive ore merely passionate, but passion with the vehicle of agression. Nature sustains itself by killing and devouring - only the strong and aggressive will survive and create change.

Tell that to Martin Luther King and Ghandi, no violence, lots of change.

Violence is one way; endeavored to the succession of peace.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Tell that to Martin Luther King and Ghandi, no violence, lots of change.

Those two made feeble changes of which the goodness or value of the changes they affected can be questioned.

Those two made feeble changes

Ah, and the arrogance surfaces again.

Feeble changes? Those men changed the world and peoples belief structures. If someone said that your lord and saviour Nietzche made feeble changes you would have a hissy fit.

Remember that your opinion is your own and not absolute.

Nietzsche is not my lord and saviour, I have my own philosophy, but I do admire his ideas a lot.

Ghandi and Martin Luther King did not change the world, but metrely some people's 'worlds'. If they really did change the world litterally the whole world would've been thinking the way they did - and that's not the case. I was not changed by them, only the minds(?) of the masses were changed by them, for only fools could've been fooled by them.

Philo, you hide your narrow little mind behind the grande curtain of philosphy.

Ghandi and Martin Luther King did in fact change the world by changing many's perceptions and beliefs. And the actions of those they affected dictated further change.

"If they really did change the world litterally the whole world would've been thinking the way they did - and that's not the case." That is a very small minded and niave approach to global politics and cultural belief systems.

"I was not changed by them, only the minds(?) of the masses were changed by them, for only fools could've been fooled by them."

As you often say foolish things, I have to disagree with you, in fact, it was the foolish who discounted their teachings and sought to take refuge in their closesd minds.

Peter Griffin: You know Chris, your great great uncle was a philosopher. The great Osiahs Griffin.

*Flashback sees Osiahs sitting thoughtfully*

Osiah's Wife: When are you going to go get a job?

*Osiahs extends arm in a monumental way*

Osiahs: Whyyy?

-AC

that's the best joke every alpha!!! 😂

Originally posted by Philosophicus
as mighty as the pen - what bullshit! A sword can cut a pen in half and a person holding a sword to the throught of a person with a pen in his hand can tell that person to write whatever he dictates!

you completely miss my point.

a man with a pen on the other side of the world could destroy the sword weilding kensai just by writing. he wouldn't even have to see him....

think about it. think deep and expand your mind. it will make perfect sense.