Juggernaut absolutely destroys the Blob. He's not indestuctible, merely immovable. He can not take a heavy pounding from a class 100. His gut can take punches but his face cant. He's been dealt with by Colossus in Uncanny Xmen around the time of "Days of future Past." The team managed to get him off the ground using a metal girder laid across wolverines back, colossus and leverage. He was catapulted into the air and got punched into a building by Colossus.
I think somewhere along the line the convo shifted from Blob to "if Juggernaut is so unstoppable, can he walk through an Adamantium wall?"
You DID read the whole thread, didn't you? I know you're always telling everybody else that 😉
All joking aside, there's this common misconception that because something is stated as being "un" this or "infinite" that, that it is. That's not the case. Everything has a breaking point, everything has a limit, everything has an end. It's just that in many cases, that end hasn't been reached within the context of the deeds certain characters perform. I'll bet Juggernaut would stop right in his tracks if he ran into a Celestial foot. I'll bet Hulk's strength will never make him powerful enough to wrestle Eternity, no matter how mad he gets. And Blob can, with enough force, be moved, no matter how "unmovable" he claims to be. So in this case, I can say with some degree of confidence that Juggy's degree of unstoppability is greater than Blob's degree of unmovability, mainly because his power source (Cytorrak) is far greater than Blob's genetic whoopsie.
I read the thread but i just didnt see why it was brought into this discussion at all. Blob isnt paticularly strong he can lift 5 tons. He isnt invulnerable, his gut just cushions impacts from projectiles. He doesnt fare so well against energy attacks for example. He could not take on a class 100 and win. He has been moved by wolverine and Colossus. He really isnt good enough to be pitted against classic jugg
Originally posted by demigawd
I think somewhere along the line the convo shifted from Blob to "if Juggernaut is so unstoppable, can he walk through an Adamantium wall?"You DID read the whole thread, didn't you? I know you're always telling everybody else that 😉
All joking aside, there's this common misconception that because something is stated as being "un" this or "infinite" that, that it is. That's not the case. Everything has a breaking point, everything has a limit, everything has an end. It's just that in many cases, that end hasn't been reached within the context of the deeds certain characters perform. I'll bet Juggernaut would stop right in his tracks if he ran into a Celestial foot. I'll bet Hulk's strength will never make him powerful enough to wrestle Eternity, no matter how mad he gets. And Blob can, with enough force, be moved, no matter how "unmovable" he claims to be. So in this case, I can say with some degree of confidence that Juggy's degree of unstoppability is greater than Blob's degree of unmovability, mainly because his power source (Cytorrak) is far greater than Blob's genetic whoopsie.
I agree completely. Bravo DG, bravo.
Originally posted by demigawd
I think somewhere along the line the convo shifted from Blob to "if Juggernaut is so unstoppable, can he walk through an Adamantium wall?"You DID read the whole thread, didn't you? I know you're always telling everybody else that 😉
All joking aside, there's this common misconception that because something is stated as being "un" this or "infinite" that, that it is. That's not the case. Everything has a breaking point, everything has a limit, everything has an end. It's just that in many cases, that end hasn't been reached within the context of the deeds certain characters perform. I'll bet Juggernaut would stop right in his tracks if he ran into a Celestial foot. I'll bet Hulk's strength will never make him powerful enough to wrestle Eternity, no matter how mad he gets. And Blob can, with enough force, be moved, no matter how "unmovable" he claims to be. So in this case, I can say with some degree of confidence that Juggy's degree of unstoppability is greater than Blob's degree of unmovability, mainly because his power source (Cytorrak) is far greater than Blob's genetic whoopsie.
Rhito!! Well put!! But I think you're wrong. Blobo may not be litterally and infinitly not movable, but he is pretty damn hard to move. He's been pu through quite a bit over the years. Anyway, I see Juggy walking through him before he is moved. His body simply wouldn't be able to take the stress... either that, or Juggy and Blobo merge. (see my previous idea- about adamantium, I think it would aply well here.) LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, first let me address the adamantium room. I think Juggy would knock the crap out of the room. Think of putting like, an explosive into a metal box that wont be destroyed by its force. It like, jumps and moves. Juggy would slam into the wall, and the room would get knocked through the building, and it would continue until the room just comes apart at the hinges or something, unless this is an unrealistic hypothetical room with no hinges or ways out. Also, compare it to sitting in a parked car. I have no chance of breaking the door open, yet when Im in the car and I bang up against the door, the entire Car shakes. No apply that to JUGGERNAUGHT moving around and the stationary container (the car in my case) would definatly dance.
In a stand up fight, Juggy would slap the Blob around, but if we are talking Juggy and Blob are at a barbacue and get into an arguement on who is unmovable and who is unstoppable then it gets much more interesting.
1 of 3 things could happen
The first is assumes the following. If the Xmen have repeatly taken Blob off the ground, then he really isnt as movable as he claims he is, and Juggy easily runs through him and spends the rest of the day scraping Blob off the shoe.
The second is the Hulk version. We can assume that the times that Xmen have taken Blob out, they more "outsmarted" his power by lifting or leverage or whatever, than by "overpowering" his power. Now, we can look at the example of Hulk lifting Blob up, along with the ground. So Blobs power works and adheres himself to the ground, however with enough force the actual ground can be lifted. In this case, Juggy would knock the Blob down, along with the land he was standing on. I think this is what would "actually" happen.
Now the third, which I call the "X-men fanboy" theory is the most interesting. We assume that Juggernaught is infact unstoppable, and we also assume that Blob is immovable. It would seem to be a paradox, since both cant be completely true. However it in fact can be.....
First we shall define "immovable" It is staying in one place in relation to other objects around it. Now think about driving a car. Your staying in one place, in relation to the car, but outside, in relation to the world, your moving. So, in the Car "realm", your not moving, in the world "realm", you are.
Now here it is. The "realm" in which Blobs power works, is the gravitational field of the planet he is on (ie Earth itself) while the "realm" Juggy works in seems to be spacial. So, when they collide, spacially Juggernaught continues moving, while in relation to the Earth, Blob stays still, not moving in relation to the gravitational field. What this means is THE EARTH IS DESTROYED. If blob anchors himself on the gravitational field of the Earth, and we assume he cannot move from that spot, then Juggernaught would actually begin to move the gravitational field itself. Earthquakes and crap would start immideatly. Climates would change, the poles would shift, Micheal Moore would turn into a republican, Marvel comics would make sense again, all sorts of crazy mess.
Now, after saying that, I think I should restate that I think the second scenario is the correct one, as Blob isnt that strong, and also this is just power vs power, not an actual fight.