Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Never, how can you use a "What If..." comic to back up your arguments which is obviously not in continuity with the rest of the Marvel Universe, then basically tell wolverine8888 that the annuals[Uncanny X-Men Giant Size Annual #11] dont count because they arent in continuity? "to hell with Claremont and what he wrote in the Annuals(most of them arent in continuity anyway)" {i know the quote is off, but i have posted the real one}Claremont wrote both stories. if your going to use what he wrote to back up your argument, then let someone else use what he wrote to back up theirs.
You too will learn, Arachnoid.
Chris Claremont wrote both stories, sir?
27 1981/06 What if Phoenix had not died? >>>Mary Jo Duffy<<< - Jerry Bingham - John Stuart X-Men
That looks like it says "Mary Jo Duffy." Does that look like Chris Claremont to you, sir? Mary Jo Duffy wrote it. You were saying? If you HAVE both comics like you say you do please open the front cover and look on the bottom right of the 1st page - you know, where it says "written by Mary Jo Duffy" in italics in the little box?
When I used the "What If?" issue regarding Phoenix I used it to demonstrate the scope of her powers and then **backed it up*** with other references to her abilities. What she accomplished in THAT comic book is consistent with nigh every other characterization of Phoenix. You DO see the part where I said "Other quotes," do you not? You have NEVER EVER seen anyone EVER in ANY comic book have Wolverine regenerate from one drop of blood. There is a HUGE difference between the two.
No shit I quoted the story out of order as I was doing it from memory. Shall I cut and paste for YOU when I reposted it after I FOUND the comic book? I also posted the wrong title - again, from memory. Fluck it, I WILL post it. Be right back.
Sir.
Here you are.
"Found the issue. It is "What If Phoenix Had Not Died," Issue #27.
Arachnoid, Dark Phoenix (and Jean Grey actually) could manipulate molecular matter. On page 17 she created a spacesuit for Kitty Pryde out of nothing when she burst out of her spaceship.
"Phoenix gestures...and a protective spacesuit encases the child!"
She consumed the sun I referenced on page 31.
"Surely no one will mind if I consume a very small star, with no inhabited planets. Who'll miss it? Who'll ever know?" -- she did not know that the star was a sun and had inhabited planets orbiting it.
Page 32 she kills Kitty Pryde (forgot about that one). Page 33 Professor X says "I...could destroy your entire mind....and rob you of intelligence...forever!" Dark Phoenix responds, "You could try."
Page 34 -- "Too late, Charles Xavier realizes that she is only toying with him." She turned him into a vegetable actually. Slams Angel into a wall and kills him on page 35; buries Storm alive on page 35; drops a building on Iceman on page 35; "Enjoy your taste of hellfire!" -- Nightcrawler, page 35; reverses Colossus and Wolverine's fastball special and kills Colossus, page 37; drags Wolverine into Nightcrawler's pyre, page 37; kills Polaris, page 37; Havoc THEN hit her with all of his power, staggering her - she sent the blast through HIS chest, not Scott's: page 38; Cyclops THEN hit her full blast also but she did not even budge, just returned a blast and killed him. She then realized she killed Scott, and...
"In Jean Grey's moment of anguish, the Phoenix Power engulfs her, and continues to spread and grow until it engulfs the entire city...and the earth itself. And still it does not stop, but continues to grow...expanding ever outward, across the universe...destroying everything in its path." -- page 39."
Now. Tell me THAT is out of sequence, sir? Since you have it sitting right in front of you - and brilliant how you posted the last comment in the thread where I SAID I found the comic book and reposted the information in the interest of clarification? You know, where you said "Thanks for the info?"
Pffft.
And oh, sir - "What If Phoenix Had Not Died" was #32? I thought you HAD the issue, sir? Notice I cut and pasted what the issue number was above? Here it is again, since you HAVE IT, you know:
27<<<< 1981/06 What if Phoenix had not died? Mary Jo Duffy - Jerry Bingham - John Stuart X-Men
See the arrows? Number #27. But wait, I DO have #32 for you (even though you have it already):
32 1982/04 What if the Avengers had become the pawns of Korvac? Mark Gruenwald - Greg LaRocque Avengers
Does THAT look like "What If Phoenix Had Not Died?" Looks more like "What If...Pawns of Korvac" to me.
And wait - "What If Phoenix Rose Again?" is #33? Lo and behold - look what I have!
33<<< 1982/06 What if the Dazzler had become the herald of Galactus? Danny Fingeroth - Mike Vosburg - Jon D'Agostino Dazzler
#33 looks like "What If...Herald of Galactus?" to me, sir - but again, don't you have these sitting in FRONT OF YOU?