Daredevil: Really the man without fear?

Started by Arachnoidfreak2 pages

Kingpin is a poor man's Lex Luther. and fat.

again, DD survived several rounds of mephisto, and kicked that crap out of both sabretooth and iron fist.

as for the luthor comment, the modern age version of luthor is actually a cheap imitation of the kingpin who was popular at the time of the crisis on infinite earths. this began a long string of dc ripoffs that truely culminated when they ripped off Daredevil villian, the owl, and called him the penguin in batman returns.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
this began a long string of dc ripoffs that truely culminated when they ripped off Daredevil villian, the owl, and called him the penguin in batman returns.

Huh? The Penguin was around long before Batman Returns. In fact, he first appeared, in Detective Comics #58, which came out in December of 1941. The Owl, as far as I can tell, first appeared in 1964. Come to think of it, that's also the year Daredevil #1 came out.

err... back to the topic: i bet you DD's afraid of sitting in front row of a live rock concert.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
again, DD survived several rounds of mephisto, and kicked that crap out of both sabretooth and iron fist.

as for the luthor comment, the modern age version of luthor is actually a cheap imitation of the kingpin who was popular at the time of the crisis on infinite earths. this began a long string of dc ripoffs that truely culminated when they ripped off Daredevil villian, the owl, and called him the penguin in batman returns.

DC villains have been around way longer than Marvel ones, as Gregory pointed out with the Owl/Penguin example. Marvel actually ripped off quite a few DC characters, i.e. the original Captain Marvel, from Marvel comics. He was so similar to Superman that DC sued them for the rights, now he is known as Shazam! in DC, and Marvel made a new Captain Marvel, with completely different powers.

Oringinally posted by Frothbyte
err... back to the topic: i bet you DD's afraid of sitting in front row of a live rock concert.

😆 I agree.

i'm saying that danny devito's mutant penguin was a blatant ripoff of the owl, not the comics' penguin. and for the record aquaman was a ripoff of the submariner

Aquaman doesn't count. He's so LAME. Namor is much better.

Every comic company has a rip-off of another comic company, Luthor just happens to be one of the exceptions, i.e. he was made first.

but his characterization in the modern age is based on kingpin

I dont know, I think Marvel's characters r far more unique and modern...DC characters r just too allegorical and anitquated and required no creativity to design....this is not because they r older, just look at the Sub Mariner or Cap or Human Torch I...older than DC characters but vastly more individual and unique....compare the origins of DC character to those of Marvel....Superman vs Captain america...from today's perspective Superman's origin sounds like something a child made up in about five minutes, although it might have been cutting edge back in the day, while Cap's origin hasnt become lame with time....there r some rip off's in both direction's but not many...the Shazam example is a good one...however, Superman was created in such broad strokes it is easy to understand other comics having similar characters.

Originally posted by Wynndar
I dont know, I think Marvel's characters r far more unique and modern...DC characters r just too allegorical and anitquated and required no creativity to design

Maybe you just aren't familiar with the right DC characters?

I certainly disagree about your example; Captain America is the product of a war-time experiment, right? If you think that's interesting, fine, but I see nothing special about it. Punisher became a vigilante when his family was killed; far from being unique, this is similiar to Batman, one of the most famous comic book characters ever. Spiderman gained powers after being exposed to radiation, like the Atom and any number of characters. Maybe the Marvel characters whose origins I know are all just the less creative ones?

Originally posted by Darth Jello
and for the record aquaman was a ripoff of the submariner

duh! Namor was the first character ever created by Marvel Comics in 1939...waay before aquaman