Aule---+---Melkor

Started by shaber2 pages

Melkor was the only being in all the cosmos created with such initial stature as to wish on his own to overcome Eru. Aule was lesser in origin so not quite unbalanced enough...

Does anyone know whether Melkor had any maiar created in his following? Or had he missed out on that already.

Originally posted by shadowy_blue
Melkor, dope or dupe? An interesting question. What are the influences and motivations that caused Melkor to play the sour notes on his Cosmic Tuba? Perhaps he got a few bad pepperonis on the pizza they ordered at choir practice the day before. Indigestion can get anyone out of sorts, not to mention food poisoning. Just think of the peace and harmony that would have arisen on Middle Earth if Domino's had just read the expiration dates on the meat-packages.........

If, as some suppose, Tom Bombadil is the embodiment of Eru himself, one has only to look .....................

On a different note (pun intended), perhaps the name change from Melkor to Morgoth had nothing to do with Feanor and all the rest of that folderol. Perhaps Eru liked classical a-capella choir music, but Melkor decided that he was into black-leather outfits and metal and hi-amp electric guitars. That would give new meaning to his new name -- He wanted more Goth, and less classical.

Your classic.... 😆 🙄

I'm high right now, sorry. 😛

😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by shadowy_blue
Perhaps Eru liked classical a-capella choir music, but Melkor decided that he was into black-leather outfits and metal and hi-amp electric guitars. That would give new meaning to his new name -- He wanted more Goth, and less classical.

😆 😆 😆

Btw - the "classical"-thing is even true ✅

Instruments used in the Ainulindale:
Harps
Lutes
Flutes
Organs
and of course the choirs of the Valar....

😘 😘

That would have been a musical catastrophe... *covers ears* - I'm glad that there were some innovative, imaginative and creative people with new ideas, like Melkor, who made the whole thing more interesting 😄

*tries to imagine Melkor as a drummer, Sauron with an e-guitar and Gothmog the bassist --- while Manwe is trying to play his harp*
hysterical

😱
I did actually use to play guitar...
Then i stopped

How do you pronounce Aule? 😒:

The "Au" sounds like "ou" in "sour", NOT like english "au" as in "automatic"; L is not retroflex like in american english, but the normal alveolar liquid with the tongue shortly behind the front teeth; e is eh

Hence

like Owl-eh 😛

[EDIT]

Sorry my PC has decided to be weird and doublepost my postings 😬 maybe I also clicked to quick 😛

Thanks.😛

Bumping 😄

aaahh...I remember this thread..LOL..😖hifty:

Hey I don't know what you're talking about cauz I didn't read the first page. 🍺

^^read the first page...!

hysterical

I know the answer to that question!!!!
When Melkor and Aule were young they were brothers. One day, daddy Illuvatar gave each one a bowl of pudding. Melkor started to eat it, but Aule built a mountain out of it, so it looked like he had more, which made Melkor jealous. He then destroyed the mountain of pudding and dad came back to see that the little raisins he had put in the pudding became dwarves. He sent Melkor in his room and Aule was kept in Eru's light

Now more serioulsy. Everyone agrees that destroying in easier than making (except sweet love). Melkor just didn't have the will to build like Aule. And that's what seperates them. THE WORK!!!

I forgot to had that those two had the same potential all along, but Aule made a better use of it

Originally posted by Mandos
I forgot to had that those two had the same potential all along, but Aule made a better use of it

I'd say the contrary, Melkor had a lot more potential from the beginning and also made more effective use of his power, just ... less constructive 🙂 but definitely more effective

Destruction is also some kind of work though, and not an easy one... and Melkor didn't *only* destroy

Right Melkor didn't only destroy (althought what he built would have better been not there), but I didn't say that destroying was an easy job. You said it. I only said that it was easier than building.
Ex: You have a card castle in front of you. Is it easier to destroy it or to make another one that looks the same?
But I agree with you when you said that Melkor had more potential than Aule (a little bit)

Originally posted by Mandos
Ex: You have a card castle in front of you. Is it easier to destroy it or to make another one that looks the same?[/B]

In this example, both would represent Morgoth's way of working though.
He has always been trying to imitate what others had created, make something similar only bereaved of its purity - like for example elves <-> orcs, or also the way he appeared, wearing a real physical form, talking in 'language', building castles etcetc.
Destructing is [physically] easier than imitating which again is easier than creating, the latter being what Aule did in contrary to Morgoth

That's what I said 😆

laughing bag pretty much, yea 😄 only that your phrasing made it look like "building an other one that looks the same" would be what Aule would have dont 😛 which isnt the case

No it isn't. I didn't express myself correctly. My fault. You have to know that I'm french so I might make errors like that.