Nightcrawler vs Spiderman

not really just regular spidey, Spiderman's "spidersense" will up his reaction to speed 15x, to a bullet dodgeing capacity.

Venom opperates on around 7x-12x, it is questionable to whether or not he could dodge bullets.
"a reaction comparison"

you can see this stuff at the Marvel Directory website.

Yeah but in secret wars Spidey wore the Venom suit. I was asking if you are calling the fight on that factor.

Well, he had his read and blues on during the incounter. the Symbiote came into play after the fight. If he would have worn it then the suit just would have made HIM faster, not his spidersense.

Alright, I think Spidey takes this one but I was still wondering, since you seem to have your facts straight and don't seem like a fanboy.

Since Nightcrawler is in another dimension when he teleports, and he's pretty quick to attack after he pops out, are Spidey's senses enough to help him avoid the attack all the time? Or most of the time, maybe some of the time?

Also, do you agree that Nightcrawler is more agile than Spiderman.

more Agile most definetly yes.

the dimension thing.............very good point. I could see that greatly helping Nightcralwer, but dosent he get tired from it? maybe, maybe not.

Yeah i think it exerts him. So Nightcrawler would have to something quick to make use of that edge.

Thank you for an inciteful conversation, I've been dealing with nothing but fan boys for a while now. Who are have actually told me that spiderman is is near quicksilver speed, has relfexes for times that of a human, is 40 times faster than a human, is 40 times more agile than a human (that's what that 40 comment before was about.) It was getting quite irritating.

So again, thank you.

No problem. Im not sure about the differnt dimension affecting spidersense but anything is possible.

Well as soon as he comes out and has intent to harm Spidey i'm sure Spidey will pick up on it. But this does let Nightcrawler come incredibly close. I wonder if he is talented enough to take advantage of that. If he is he'd be a far greater threat than everyone is giving him credit for.

Well, spidey's been able to sense things comming from other dimensions inthe past, like madam web or whatever her name is, so i think he would be able to track nightcrawler as well.

I'm pretty sure Madam Web activated his senses to give him a heads up and I think it was a somewhat different sensation as well (spidey never tried to jump out of the way or anything.)

snaps, what i call him? ok i said something else in anpther thread too sorry.

imo spidey wins this one, but it would be one sweet fast-paced fight

I agree, but Nightcrawler's got an honest to goodness chance if his attack speed coming out of teleportation is near Spidey's reaction time.

it isn't it can't be, he's not strong or fast enough....enough with the spiderman bashing already. Kurt can't even take out wolvy

nightcrawler wouldnt have a chance...spidey has strength speed experience...and dont forget the jokes

Come on now Wynndar, argue the point I made don't give none of this spiderninaage8 rubbish.

I dont want to totally shoot it down but: well spidey's reflexes have been rated at 20-40 times a regular humans...i dont know if nightcrawler actually has reflex enhancement...regardless...reflexes and reaction time will be of no importance considering the spider sense operates on a preocognitient level...in reference to the reaction time

Yeah, the only reason I thought it might work is 'cause Nightcrawler is in a different dimension. I've never known Spidey sense to traverse the cosmos.

Even if his spider-sense didn't warn him, it still wouldn't mean much. Nightcrawler's strength level isn't superhuman, so he wouldn't be able to hurt Spidey. That much, at least.

I think Spidey only looks like he takes alot more damage than he actually does. He's constantly moving out of the way so all the hits he takes are basically glancing blows. If you could actually sneak up on him or he sat still for a blow I'd think you'd see everyone overestimates his durability.