What are the best epics ever?

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Originally posted by Ushgarak

"Epic Films often take an historical or imagined event, mythic, legendary, or heroic figure, and add an extravagant setting and lavish costumes, accompanied by grandeur and spectacle and a sweeping musical score. Epics, costume dramas, historical dramas, war film epics, medieval romps, or 'period pictures' are tales that often cover a large expanse of time set against a vast, panoramic backdrop. In an episodic manner, they follow the continuing adventures of the hero(s), who are presented in the context of great historical events of the past."

Wow, that takes me back...

Yup, Titanic is indeed an epic, a very solid one. In fact, here is a list to help you out:

Greatest Early Epic Films:
Judith of Bethulia (1914)
The Birth of a Nation (1915)
Intolerance (1916)
Orphans of the Storm (1921)
The Covered Wagon (1923)
The Ten Commandments (1923) (remade 1956)
The Thief of Bagdad (1924)
The Battleship Potemkin (1925, USSR)
Ben-Hur (1926) (remade 1959)
King of Kings (1927) (remade 1961)
Napoleon (Fr.) (1927)
The Sign of the Cross (1932)
Cavalcade (1933)
Cleopatra (1934)
Anna Karenina (1935)
The Crusades (1935)
The Last Days of Pompeii (1935)
Mutiny on the Bounty (1935)
San Francisco (1936)
The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938)
Alexander Nevsky (1938, USSR)
In Old Chicago (1938)
Drums Along the Mohawk (1939)
Gone With The Wind (1939)
Northwest Passage (1940)
Ivan the Terrible, Part I and II (1944, 1946, USSR)
Wilson (1944)
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
Duel in the Sun (1946)
Anna Karenina (1947)
The Fountainhead (1949)
Madame Bovary (1949)
Samson and Delilah (1949)
Quo Vadis? (1951)
The Greatest Show on Earth (1952)
The Robe (1953)
Seven Samurai (1954, Jp.)
Sign of the Pagan (1954)
Giant (1956)
Lust for Life (1956)
The Ten Commandments (1956)
War and Peace (1956)
The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957)
Ben-Hur (1959)

Greatest Recent Epic Films:
Exodus (1960)
Spartacus (1960)
El Cid (1961)
King of Kings (1961)
How the West was Won (1961)
Barabbas (1962)
Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
The Longest Day (1962)
Cleopatra (1963)
The Great Escape (1963)
55 Days at Peking (1963)
Sodom and Gomorrah (1963)
The Fall of the Roman Empire (1964)
Doctor Zhivago (1965)
The Greatest Story Ever Told (1965)
The Bible (1966)
Hawaii (1966)
A Man For All Seasons (1966, UK)
The Sand Pebbles (1966)
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
Patton (1970)
Ryan's Daughter (1970)
The Godfather (1972)
The Poseidon Adventure (1972)
The Godfather, Part II (1974)
The Towering Inferno (1974)
Barry Lyndon (1975)
Nashville (1975)
The Wind and the Lion (1975)
1900 (1976)
Star Wars Trilogy (1977)
Heaven's Gate (1980)
Reds (1981)
Gandhi (1982)
Dune (1984)
Passage to India (1984)
Once Upon a Time in America (1984)
Out of Africa (1985)
Ran (1985, Jp.)
The Mission (1986)
Empire of the Sun (1987)
The Last Emperor (1987)
Dances with Wolves (1990)
JFK (1991)
Malcolm X (1992)
Gettysburg (1993)
Jurassic Park (1993)
Schindler's List (1993)

Apollo 13 (1995)
Braveheart (1995)
Nixon (1995)
The English Patient (1996)
Kundun (1997)
Titanic (1997)
Gladiator (2000)
The Patriot (2000)
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
Troy (2004)

And here is a bit more:

"Epics are historical films that recreate past events. They are expensive and lavish to produce, because they require elaborate and panoramic settings, on-location filming, authentic period costumes, inflated action on a massive scale and large casts of characters. Biopic (biographical) films are often less lavish versions of the epic film.

Epics often rewrite history, suffering from inauthenticity, fictitious recreations, excessive religiosity, hard-to-follow details and characters, romantic dreamworlds, ostentatious vulgarity, political correctness, and leaden scripts. Accuracy is sometimes sacrificed: the chronology is telescoped or modified, and the political/historical forces take a back seat to the personalization and ideological slant of the story (i.e., the 'poetic license' of Oliver Stone's controversial JFK (1991) immediately comes to mind).

Epics often share elements of the more elaborate adventure films genre and swashbuckler subgenre (e.g., the Robin Hood tale of The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938)). They may be combined with other genre types too, including:

epic/historical westerns (i.e., Cimarron (1930), Dances with Wolves (1990))
epic science-fiction (i.e., Star Wars (1977))
epic/historical dramas (i.e., Bernardo Bertolucci's The Last Emperor (1987))
epic war films (i.e., The Longest Day (1962))
unconventional epics (i.e., Robert Altman's Nashville (1975))
auteur epics (i.e., Coppola's Apocalypse Now (1979), Warren Beatty's period film Reds (1981), and theatrical director Julie Taymor's adaptation of Shakespeare's Titus (1999) (Andronicus) - her debut film with innovative production design)
Epics have existed since the earliest days of American cinema, from D. W. Griffith's ground-breaking The Birth of a Nation (1915), to the giant Civil War epic and Best Picture winner Gone With The Wind (1939), to the fairly-recent Schindler's List (1993), Titanic (1997), and Ridley Scott's Best Picture winner and revamped 'sword and sandal' epic, Gladiator (2000) (with state-of-the-art CGI visual effects). Irreverent spoofs of Biblical films have also emerged, such as The Life of Brian (1979), with the Monty Python cast.

Epics are often called costume dramas, since they emphasize the trappings of a period setting: historical pageantry, costuming and wardrobes, locale, spectacle, decor and a sweeping visual style. They often transport viewers to other worlds or eras: ancient times, biblical times, the Middle Ages, the Victorian era, or turn-of-the-century America. Unlike true historical epics, period films choose a specific historical period, and then superimpose fictional characters or events into the setting. "

my head hurts 🙁

SW and LOTR... because I haven't seen most of those movies

Once Upon a Time in America is one of my favourite movies ever...its so tragic, but its awesome.

I thought it was Mexico?

Originally posted by Ushgarak

Spartacus (1960)
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
The Godfather (1972)
Gandhi (1982)
Dune (1984)
JFK (1991)
Braveheart (1995)
Kundun (1997)
Gladiator (2000)
Troy (2004)

All greats... 👆

Originally posted by Ushgarak

Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
The English Patient (1996)

I need to see those two. Especially since WillemGODafoe is in The English Patient.

Obviously it's become a hard time to make an epic film - look at all those earlies and recents.In a where there is much war and tyranny, it's cost us even our movies.

Note : I love how "Troy" is just plopped on the end of the list. 😄

Gladiator
Trpy
Kingdom of heaven
Das Boot
Godfather
Once upon a time in America
Gangs of Mew York
Legends of the Fall
There will be blood
King Kong
Blade Runner
Star Wars
LOTR
Arn

just a few off the top of my head

I love how many times Charlton Heston is in a movie on that list ....

"The Greatest Show on Earth" [his first film] "The Ten Commandments" [his second film] "Ben-Hur."

I've seen almost all of these movies. I'm glad they're being recognized for the way they are.

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

I don't really have much patience for longer films now although I have seen the some of the very, very long biblical films mentioned above by Ushgarak but only really remember the parts where things were moving along. I have'nt really wanted to attach to many of the modern epic sagas that keep popping up like HP, LOTR and POTC - just 'cause I can't see myself sitting through them.

When I hear cinemas doing all night LOTR deals like below:

http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/whatson/lord-of-the-rings-all-nighter-feature-event-4139.html

I get worried. I couldn't do it not even with the breaks they give you. For shorter, quicker films maybe I'd do it but...

I'm not a big Cruise fan & to see him as the lone survivor in The Last Samurai really turned me off enjoying the movie.

Intolerance (1916) D. W. Griffith

I think you can view film at Internet Archive

Intolerance is a 1916 American silent film directed by D. W. Griffith and is considered one of the great masterpieces of the Silent Era. The three-and-a-half hour epic intercuts four parallel storylines each separated by several centuries: (1) A contemporary melodrama of crime and redemption; (2) a Judean story: Christ’s mission and death; (3) a French story: the events surrounding the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre of 1572; and (4) a Babylonian story: the fall of the Babylonian Empire to Persia in 539 BC.