Reincarnation

Originally posted by Turbo-Cajun
I think the idea of reincarnation is spawned out of a natural fear we have of dying. People don't want to die, so they make up crazy shit that helps them cope with it. Some make up heaven, others make up reincarnation, others have ideas of some kind of spirit world where we go to... When we die, we die... we go away. After death you cease to exist as an individual... you are just a memory. Thats why you have to live this life to its fullest and enjoy it, make this world a better one... dont be thinking you have a second chance to make things right when you probably wont.

I believed in reincarnation when I went through my Mary Jane phase..... but it took me being all floaty and high to believe that shit. I'm rather more 'normal' now and definitely inclined to believe that once we die, it's over. And by the time I snuff it I'll probably be appreciative of that fact 😉

I barely remember the life I'm leading now. I can't even remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.

If we come back - but don't remember anything: Then how is that any different from soul-death. What is it that makes us "us" and defines us?

If you consider how you think as the thing that makes up who you are (the illusion of consciousness) and that "Me" is lost when you came back... whats the point of the debate? A different body that has different thoughts could no more be me than the person sitting next to me right now.

i dont belive in reincarnation ❌

strange thing though most people who claimed to have lived before always happen to have been famous people 😕 😱

Originally posted by Mr Zero
A different body that has different thoughts could no more be me than the person sitting next to me right now.

Throw the 'changing time' debate into that equation and you could find yourself sitting next to, well, yourself 😕

I believe in the "With every death there's a life" theory.

Every now and then you get 6 year olds with insane musical ability or super mathematical genius for their ages.

I don't believe that's coz they have great teachers....

I think that it's possible that when a life is ended, it is continuing, recycled (for lack of a better term) in a new born life. Life doing what humans cannot do, pass on what we should so that our young ones can become better human beings.

I believe we are eternal beings and provided the earth is still here, our human race will become recycled by life so much that we will eventually reach a perfect, harmonic race of beings.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I believe in the "With every death there's a life" theory.

Every now and then you get 6 year olds with insane musical ability or super mathematical genius for their ages.

I don't believe that's coz they have great teachers....

-AC

No, it's because they are born with intellectual capabilities, not because they have leftovers from Einstein's brain in theirs 😕

I was born with intellectual capabilities, I aced every test I ever took.

I couldn't do that at 4 though. I couldn't name every city in the world and it's president at 4 years old. I couldn't do extremely complex mathematical equations in my nursery years.

Mozart wrote symphonies in single digit years of his life.

Intellectual capabilities and unexplainable intellectual ability are two different things.

And please don't try to demean my theory by saying "they don't have leftovers of Einstein's brains." The theory is alot more complex than that.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
And please don't try to demean my theory by saying "they don't have leftovers of Einstein's brains." The theory is alot more complex than that.

-AC

I wasn't trying to demean anything, far from it. I simply didn't understand your theory 😬

This is probably the one and only time I have happened NOT to agree with you, for reasons other than what you consider my trying to make you look bad, and you immediately pick up on it ❌

Wouldn't it have been better to ask what I meant rather than make that comment? Either way, I like you so I wont make a major fuss.

Part of the fun is that we can never know what lies beyond death, even if it's nothing, until we get there. That's the problem, all the theories about death are made by those still alive. I have no idea how my theory would work technically, I'm just saying that would be a very very amazing possibility. One that I believe is more possible than most other theories. I think it's more sensible to accept that, in all infinity and eternity, there is something else meant for us rather than assuming we live and die.

Maybe I'm an optimist. However I don't like the idea that I lived my life in the mudball, murderous, disintegrating society we live in today, just to grow old and die. I'd like to think I'll be somewhat rewarded for at least trying to become some kind of a decent human being while I was here.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Maybe I'm an optimist. However I don't like the idea that I lived my life in the mudball, murderous, disintegrating society we live in today, just to grow old and die. I'd like to think I'll be somewhat rewarded for at least trying to become some kind of a decent human being while I was here.

-AC

If everyone thought the way you do, we wouldn't be living in a mudball. The reward we have is here. It's earth, and our lives. If everyone chose to be a decent human being, we'd have the utopia you are looking for here, now. But such isn't the case. Instead, what we have sucks, and we yearn for something better.

Bill Hicks said it best:

"If we spent the trillions of dollars used to fund weapons each year to instead feed and take care of the people of the world, which it would do many times over without excluding one human being, we could end war and suffering and explore space together as the peaceful and genuinely intelligent race we are meant to be."

An answer so simple it will never happen.

-AC

I don't think I've ever heard of Bill Hicks, but I agree anyway. *insert appropriate smilie here*

Check out some of his stuff. Downloadable anywhere I should imagine. I have one of his albums I can send you some pieces off also.

-AC

That's an amazing concept. I'd love to be able to believe that AC, but perhaps I am the pessimist, or realist, whichever 😛

I do think that we have a valid reason for living the life we have, and that is procreation. Isn't that reason enough?

Yeah but then that would make God a bit of a pervert. Creating us just to have sex haha.

-AC

If reincarnation were true, the population would not increase.

Its another fantastical belief, like heaven, that people make up to help cope with idea of dying.

I don't believe it's dead exact Death=A life. Hence no population stability. Just saying my theory.

I am completely at peace with my inevitable death because I am no longer afraid of it. Because of the simple fact that I don't believe, in all that is, that death is the final sleep. Just the final awakening.

If not, I'll never know. What have you got to lose by believing there is more out there?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't believe it's dead exact Death=A life. Hence no population stability. Just saying my theory.

I am completely at peace with my inevitable death because I am no longer afraid of it. Because of the simple fact that I don't believe, in all that is, that death is the final sleep. Just the final awakening.

If not, I'll never know. What have you got to lose by believing there is more out there?

-AC

Nothing I suppose, because once you die if there really isn't anything out there you'll be none the wiser, and if you do come back you won't recall your theories 😬 Pointless ponderings really.

Yeah but you can't really say if you do come back you wont recall this or that, unless it happens. People have memories of past lives.

-AC