Yes yes. I also think we should be more welcoming cause honestly, i know i havent been to some and i regret that. We shouldnt bash newbies just because they are new and when they break the rules we shouldnt get on their case cause they really arent that familiar with them yet. I know i love this place and i want others to love it as much as i do so we really need to get better with this kind of stuff. we cant let stupid stuff like pointless threads and arguments tear us apart because then we will loose this place and each other, and that would suck, and no one wants that to happen. so yea, lets make this forum rock like it first did.
look at some of the threads. or look at an old thread like the most powerful creature in middle earth one.
read all the good replies
then look at the ones after it was bumped.
we have ruined the forum, [...] this place [w]as an excellent discussion place and we come and turn everything upside down and off topic.[...]
EVERY thread manages to go off topic.
Yes, I also post a lot too much in social threads and neglect the others. And, no I also can't imagine KMC without our beloved conversation areas and the wonderful community that makes KMC one of the best places in the net. But for discussing seriously, I go to other forums ❌
@Shadowy - and, no, I still haven't written the thread 😮 *hides*
all of you, stop arguing ok. its really getting people down
the thing is you think you are doing the good thing, keeping your arguments secret, when in actual fact its worse, do you think all of us cant see.
ok, we all have bigger problems than to sit here and let minor disagreements tear us up. thats just wrong.
ok if something is bothering you, send a pm, be polite, do things the civilised way ✅
erm whos been argueing and what are these arguings about 😕
i have no idea what exactly happened, all i know is that there are alot of underground fights
suddenly people werent allowed to disagree
Somebody starts something, the others go with the flow (*points at LL-topic*)
a newbie comes and we act like they have a disease, we ignore them, we talk to each other, we have become a very close circle of friends which is great.
i dread the day two popular members fight and the forum splits in two
This is but a taste of the terror that members' feuds will unleash, all the more potent for they are driven mad by boredom and pointlessness... ✅
my question now is, how can we deal with this, we should all change
I am just a hopelessly naive pacifist
and want to believe in my childish view of life,
that forums/life can work, without half-hidden personal problems among the users and having to suppress the own opinion because others might think differently.
Cheers if you actually read this unconstructive nonsense.
Originally posted by Cynethryth
I don't think it was really like "we come, we turn upside down, we make forum eeevil place" - the thing that changed wasn't really the users but the whole mentality of the forum. As people already stated in different place, Tolkien has somehow left the whole place, few really come here to discuss, we just know each other too good, this is like a second Offtopicarea just with LoTR peeps - probably nobody would notice if all the LoTR-threads would disappear all of a sudden, but it is practically impossible to just think of the idea that one of the "social" threads could be closed [without a new version]. Topicless threads are easier, you do not have to think so much about what you write, you don't have to think for fifteen minutes to actually understand what the others mean. And joking about serious topics is also a lot easier than thinking about a possible answer to an asked question.Yes, I also post a lot too much in social threads and neglect the others. And, no I also can't imagine KMC without our beloved conversation areas and the wonderful community that makes KMC one of the best places in the net. But for discussing seriously, I go to other forums ❌
@Shadowy - and, no, I still haven't written the thread 😮 *hides*Underground quarrels have always existed and will always exist, it's impossible that everybody is friends with everybody; but is it really necessary to talk about others behind their back, on MSN or wherever the other members can't read it, and it won't improve anything. It doesn't make you cool or something to talk negatively about members some of the others maybe don't like, it's simply stupid.
As Sauron said, if you have a problem with somebody, send them a PM and ask them directly if it isn't maybe just a misunderstanding, and things will clear up. And if you don't like somebody, nobody forces you to talk to him/her... but bashing them won't help anybody.
The worst thing is that most of these half-hidden dislikings (though it got a little better recently) aren't actually about anything, they just are and they deteriorate 🙁... and if they do, they are usually either ignored or bashed
Somebody starts something, the others go with the flow (*points at LL-topic*)
... though I think those things kinda improved lately. There are several new members, and they all were welcomed quite friendly, I think, and are already really a part of our "community" [and our "group mentality]
And some earlier threads like this one weren't unimportant in this affair, meh thinks.So do I 🙁 I think we already saw what it could be like several times... just think of Tig Party Page 1000 🙄
This is but a taste of the terror that members' feuds will unleash, all the more potent for they are driven mad by boredom and pointlessness... ✅
We shouldnt
Wouldnt help anyways
Nobody should have to change just to fit into a forum without problemsI am just a hopelessly naive pacifist
and want to believe in my childish view of life,that forums/life can work, without half-hidden personal problems among the users and having to suppress the own opinion because others might think differently.
Cheers if you actually read this unconstructive nonsense.
now thats what i call a BIG post
I agree compleatly Sauron ✅ it is nice for us all to be such close friends, but the newbies have a right to be friends with us also.
I too feel bad for them that join now because they are coming in at a bad time. But, teh forum is not compleatly lost, we can get it back.
But, we all need to be nicer to each other and teh noobs ✅ for some people the interent is the only place in the world they have friends (ppoints to self) and wont be able to stand it if anyone was mean or they felt left out.
SO, let hte newbies in and stop arguing!!!!!
I love you all (even the noobs 😛) I jsut want out old forum back