The Balance of the Force

Well, yes and no.

Balance is light side only!!!!!!! How many times do we have to say this, this is the Law of Lucas.

Originally posted by queeq
Well, yes and no.

Balance is light side only!!!!!!! How many times do we have to say this, this is the Law of Lucas.

^ Perhaps possible but not as far as we know. Any villains post ROTJ should be non-force sensitives.

This is where the EU directly contradicts Lucas.

But we don't discuss EU here, so you have no point.

The eu part i just added as a "btw". Because it seems to me that's whats influencing Archael's theories of balancing the force.

no, he totally has a point. george lucas was wrong about his own story. thank god we have EU readers to set him straight.

So discuss that in the EU forum.

eww no. its creepy there.

It is .... it's EU. And I like to keep this forum non-creepy.

^ Do you count CW Series as EU?

Difficult area. Effectively yes, especially as it has become more and more contradictory to the films, though we discuss it in the tv series area.

That's what it's for.

Balance is light side only!!!!!!! How many times do we have to say this, this is the Law of Lucas.

No, it isn't. It's the Law of Some People on the Internet. Lucas never agreed to it or backed it up anywhere.

All of one thing and none of the other is not what balance means.

Lucas says that the Dark Side and therefore the Sith are an imbalance to the force. So naturally destroying them would according to Lucas bring balance back to the force.

Lucas never said that the very existence of the dark side itself was imbalance, nor did he or any of his characters say that the dark side could or should be destroyed.

which brings up the age-old question:

if george lucas says a thing and you cram your fingers in your ears and go "LA LA LA LA", does that mean he never said that thing?

the quote was posted and cited several times and you are just ignoring it to support your utterly incorrect hypothesis.

again:

"...Which brings us up to the films 4, 5, and 6, in which Anakin's offspring redeem him and allow him to fulfill the prophecy where he brings balance to the Force by doing away with the Sith and getting rid of evil in the universe..." -George Lucas

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chosen_One

I'm not reading the entire thread, but in case someone else sensible hasn't already pointed it out, Obi-Wan says this in Ep1:

"With all due respect, Master, is he not the Chosen One? Is he not to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

ergo, that Darth Luminous doesn't know his own ******* from a Sarlacc.

In fairness, he does say "and bring balance"...

If he said "to bring balance" then people may have gotten less confused.

But im not a fan of spoonfed style stuff when it comes to these sorts of things and think overall that the results spoke for themselves.

Actually, I do agree on that last point in general- but defining what 'balance' meant on-screen, even if not literally explained verbally, needed to be done better than it was. There was not enough symbolic representation of his idea. For example, he talks of the Naboo and the Gungans being in a symbiotic relationship, but those are just words. The concept is never shown. They seem entirely separate from what we get to look at.

well at least we have midichlorians.

Which could have been a great example of symbiosis, but were clumsily explained so people thought he was saying they were the source of the Force.

Agreed. The midichloreans as a feature of the process, rather than the origin sits much better with me. IE: That a higher midichlorean count just shows how receptive you are to the symbiotic thing, rather than it being a power ranking type thing.