D-Day

Bout why Omaha Beach was one remembered out of most of them.

Originally posted by silver_tears
I do feel gratitude to those who died.
I commemorate the day, but don't celebrate it.
Many people died, but I think it could have been prevented.

The dead don't crave commemoration - we honor the War dead best by opposing war and saving lives.

That's why threads like this should be a platform for debate: it's not strength in numbers that's power, it's knowledge.

Originally posted by rusky
Actually, Napoleon, asside from the 'conquer the world' type drive, was far from hitler. The one thing all the great names in history did have in common though is Charisma.. and lots of it..

Ya Napolean actually set a code of laws called later on The Napoleonic Code which was basically an exceptional democratic government , at least until he declared himself emperor. lol ... His Charisma was estatic .. but his greed overwhelmed him.

Originally posted by Mr Zero
The dead don't crave commemoration - we honor the War dead best by opposing war and saving lives.

That's why threads like this [B]should be a platform for debate: it's not strength in numbers that's power, it's knowledge. [/B]

Tell that to the vets in the Korean War... 200+ thousand chinese...

First of all what were you talking about Sil when you said I was worng. I got most of the Beaches names correct. But If you were talking about my comment about planning. I really do think that it was exceptional planning that went into D-Day. Organizing all those forces to land at the same time with the Pre-invasion paratroopers and everything. IMO Omaha was just bad luck that the germans had fortified that area more. We are just lucky that it didn't happen at other beaches.

My Grandfather accually landed in Normandy during the second day of the invasion or something. He doesn't like to talk about it but when we can convice him to, he tell really good stories.

I agree with knowlage being more powerful than numbers. It is technology that usually wins wars not numbers. The obvious exception is the Soviets in WW2.

And the Chinese in Korea 🙂 The soviets had really good plans though... pulled factories over the urals and struck at the Germans weakest points along with utilizing the terrian and thie numbers.

Technology sometimes is a weakness though... courage can overwhelm anything almost... and reliance on tech can crush an army.

Russia won because of 'General Winter' It defeated Napoleon, it defeated Hitler. Never underestimate the weather, which was semi-bad on d-day

and of course the germans never thought it would be clear that day, so they got lucky....

Originally posted by Mr Zero
The dead don't crave commemoration - we honor the War dead best by opposing war and saving lives.

That's why threads like this [B]should be a platform for debate: it's not strength in numbers that's power, it's knowledge. [/B]

That is only an opinion. It is not the reason this thread was created. Like I say, you want to debate something like that- open your own thread. Like it or not, this thread IS a commemoration and if you dislike that, stay out of it.

I am unsure why this is now becoming a generic WWII history thread... I think things should be kept on-topic.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
It is spectacularly inappropriate to turn this thread into a political battle. I ask everyone have respect for the reason this thread was created and desist from that. Whatever the (highly academic) fatcts are, this is about commemorating a day when a lot of people died- yes, on btoh sides- and the seeds were created of what we recognise of modern day civilisation. This squabbling is rather disgraceful in face of that. If you want to make threads debating WWII political history, and who was right or wrong, feel free- please do not do it here.

As for movies... PLEASE tell me some of you have watched The Longest Day...

...but the only thing SPR got 'wrong' about the Omaha landings is that they were too short.

Finaly someone with a brain THANK YOU USH

The Longest Day is one of the movies to watch about D-day it kicks the hell out saving private ryan

in saving private ryan it seems that they get of omaha beach 15 minuts after their arrival and that AINT TRUE

D-day was one of the harshest days in history and will hopefuly never be forgotten, not much more can be said about it IMO

My religion teacher said that D-Day was the bloodiest day in history 😬

probably one of the bloodiest days in history but I dont think it qualifies as THE bloodiest day in history

Originally posted by Tptmanno1
That is Awesome!
Also play Call of Duty if you liek band of brothers, you play most of the missions they show.

Hell yes!

My brother has Call of Duty 😄

Originally posted by silver_tears
My religion teacher said that D-Day was the bloodiest day in history 😬

weell....a history teacher would probably help more.

about 2500 allies died that day, mostly americans.
but about 11 000 (don't know exactly) allies died in taking the first city..saint...something..
so it wasn't the bloodiest.

not to mention stalingrad (though i don't know the stats there)

Approximately 40 thousand people died and than 150,000 were wounded.

I think that includes soldiers and civilians for Stalingrad 😬

**** it! I wrote a LONG reply on the battle of stalingrad and how many died and got wounded, then I got kicked for some reason and couldn't get back on for some time!

bottomline: 500 000 russians died around 120 000 germans (not sure about the last anymore)

Red Square was really bloody as well.

Have you read the book "The Longest day"? Its really good. Haven't seen the movie though, is it based on the book?