The American Dream

✅ I agree with you Zero ✅

Originally posted by Mr Zero
Sorry to burst your bubble but the entire world will not "crumble" when Americas does. You don't export anything that can't be found elsewhere.

Best of luck with your forthcoming economic disaster and next fake election. We're rootin' for you.

"The American Dream" seems to be that the mass denial of the 50's hasn't ended and that one day all Americans will wake up to find they are all rich and everyone is white.

1929: US stock market crashes, depression begins. All across the world, other countries economies crash.
If it happened once, it can happen again. Nearly every world economy is tied to the US's. If our economy goes, other might go too.

"fake election" what do you mean by that?

Originally posted by Agent Elrond
1929: US stock market crashes, depression begins. All across the world, other countries economies crash.
If it happened once, it can happen again. Nearly every world economy is tied to the US's. If our economy goes, other might go too.

"fake election" what do you mean by that?

It wasn't just the U.S stock market 🙄
Not to mention that the Depression was caused by so many other factors, like overproduction and overexpansion, and tariffs, that were imposed firstly by the states to protect their goods, other countries followed suit, and world trade reached a stand still.

Many factors played a role. Saying that America carries other countries on its shoulders is ignorant. Where would America be without other countries?

Not to mention after 9/11 the new york stock exchange almost did crash didn't it, and somehow other countries survived.

Some countries depend on the US, while the US depends on others. It's interdepenence. And your right about the stock market not being the only reason, I was just being lazy and didn't want to discuss economics.

Not to mention after 9/11 the new york stock exchange almost did crash didn't it, and somehow other countries survived.

Reason was we didn't enter a depression, so other counties didn't suffer. I'm sure if our economy crashed, other counties would suffer, my guess is Japan and China because we wouldn't be trading with them if we were in a depression

It would take alot to create a depression nowadays.

I think I read somewhere that 5 percent of the world's countries carry 95 percent of it's wealth.
Other countries would survive and eventually bring the states out of the depression.

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It irritates me when Americans think of this country as being the most important in the world... The rest of the world doesn't see it that way...

Originally posted by Kaleanae
The American Dreams of many immigrants are education, money, job opportunities, liberty. But are very few those who really achieved their American dreams, it depends of how much they work for it, how realistic their are and what are the opportunities offer to them (us).

I like how you put it Kal. 😊

This country is about the immigrants that came from other countries to try to find a better life or to escape the torments of the corruption from their homelands. Sure, it wasn't easy to adopt, but many immigrants say that they had better chances of survival in American than anywhere else in the world. People who think that the USA is all about explotation and corruption really need to look at other nations governments. All the nations of the world desire power it don't matter whether is European, Asian, or African nations. All nations exploit their citizens.

America has set stricter limitations on immigration and refugees now.
They don't even take in all the people anymore.

The immigration laws had to change because many ilegal aliens that were detain were found to have previous criminal records in their native land. Nowadays the Imigration department issues work permits for ilegal aliens. Illegal aliens who wants to work in the US must apply first with the immigration dept. before entering the country. Most of the refugees laws are enforce towards the Cuban defectors, but that is something hopefully will change with the end of the Cuban embargo.

Another good example of the American Dream is "American History X."

A great film.

And Ush, I am not trying to be cynical. I am trying to be realistic. In my opinion. The American Dream is, in a nutshell, is having the white picket fance around your 2 story house, a two car garage with your van/SUV and your family sedan. Satallite TV, the whole nine yards. You should all know the scenerio.

The problem with this whole topic is the topic in itself. It is just a dream, nothing more. The reality of America, Canada, and everywhere else is that there is an abundance of poverty, single parents, credit card debts, false promises and so on. The American Dream is a nice thought, but to hard to reach. Sad though, but true in my eyes.

I love reading non-American views of what the American Dream is.

I grew up with the belief that the American Dream involved me with my nice two story house, the white picked fence out front, with 2 kids (boy and girl) running around playing in the backyard while I sit at the bar-b-que cooking up burgers in french fries.

of course....everyone's views that America is trying to accomplish what Adolf Hitler set out to do.....is feasible also. 🙄

This will cause some 'static,' but...

Hitler, regardless of his actions, was a political Genius.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
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It irritates me when Americans think of this country as being the most important in the world... The rest of the world doesn't see it that way...

Too true... We all know England is the most important country in the world....

Originally posted by Cyclops
This will cause some 'static,' but...

Hitler, regardless of his actions, was a political Genius.

He was an evil genius ✅

Originally posted by Cyclops
This will cause some 'static,' but...

Hitler, regardless of his actions, was a political Genius.

Indeed 👆

Originally posted by Cyclops
This will cause some 'static,' but...

Hitler, regardless of his actions, was a political Genius.

I'm going to disagree with you, but nit in the way you might think. True he did rally the German people and made them feel superior, but he was flawed. He should have let his generals run the war, not himself. Never let policitions runs a war, disaster is inevitable.

America has set stricter limitations on immigration and refugees now.
They don't even take in all the people anymore.

That's because too many immergrants are entering our country. Not to be mean, but we have the right to say who can enter and who can't.

Canada allows many more refugees and immigrants. If they have nowhere else to go, saying no is just plain inhumane.

His generals he appointed, so therefore he was a genius in that sense.

Canada allows many more refugees and immigrants than who? 😕

I'm all for immigration, but I think immigrants should be of a certain criteria. In Southern California all we have are Illegal immigrants and border hoppers.

Hoping a fence or taking a life boat across the Gulf of Mexico doesn't mean you deserve to be in the United States. Everyone should have to go through customs.

I agree and disagree, Linker.

There need to be set rules, but there is an exception to every rule.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Canada allows many more refugees and immigrants than who? 😕

I'm all for immigration, but I think immigrants should be of a certain criteria. In Southern California all we have are Illegal immigrants and border hoppers.

Hoping a fence or taking a life boat across the Gulf of Mexico doesn't mean you deserve to be in the United States. Everyone should have to go through customs.

than the states

I'm sorry if that wasn't clear 😮