Punk Rock Discussion

I have never heard of them to be honest. But the thing is that Punk lost its sting you know. It is worn out. They might be a good band but they are in the wrong time. I mean you wouldn't start a mod or hippie band nowadays and expect them to have the same impact than they had in their ,Let's say "Prime- time". The only thing i am suggesting is that we stop to praise and copy other people's rebellion ,which had nothing to do with our generation and instead come up with something original. We lack our own identity ,because we are always looking up to that great Punk rebellion 30 years ago. But i don't wanna be unfair tell me about your Corporate Avenger!

has any one here heard of Bad Brains best punk band ever

i thought punk died back in the early 80's.

They might be a good band but they are in the wrong time. I mean you wouldn't start a mod or hippie band nowadays and expect them to have the same impact than they had in their ,Let's say "Prime- time". The only thing i am suggesting is that we stop to praise and copy other people's rebellion ,which had nothing to do with our generation and instead come up with something original. We lack our own identity ,because we are always looking up to that great Punk rebellion 30 years ago.

The thing is.......hypocracy in today's government is not something of the past. It is a current issue. This point is driven home especially in songs like "voting doesn't work" which sites numerous times the presidential election of 2000, an election in which more u.s. citizens voted for Al Gore.....yet George Bush won.

Adawee being a member of the Cherokee tribe (as are my relatives...so I can relate to alot of what he states) likes to also do many songs about the hypocracy in Christianity.........which also is an ongoing issue. Songs like "Christians Murdered Indians", "Enemy of the Gospel" and "$20 Bill" drive this home.

I find the message of $20 Bill to be my favorite. Andrew Jackson, the president of the United States who put fourth the Indian Removal Act ........which forced native americans from their homes to live in government sanctioned reservations, away from "civilized americans" is pictured on the front of the $20 Bill. Hitler wanted Jewish men/women to leave Germany.......away from the German people. He went so far as to kill the ones who wouldn't comply. How is what Jackson did any better? As the song states, "If Hitler was on the $20 bill.....how would the jews feel?".................yet we still have Jackson's picture on it, throwing it in the face of all native americans.

for the jackson issue, um, would you rather have reagan's face on the 20 like everybody seems to want (he was far worse than jackson).

oh, and HR and the bad brains/soul brains are pretty good but i was always more in to the southern Cali punk scene more than the DC thing.

good some one who knows good punk bands what bands do you like?

Darth Jello.......I really don't care who's on the $20 Bill.......it's not my fight. I do however find it disrespectful to Native Americans, especially when we have what, 43 presidents to choose from to put on our currency........not to mention those like Ben Franklin who occupy our currency but never held the office. I'm sure our black citizens wouldn't like it if we some day decided to put David Duke on our currency. I'm just saying that I can see their point. Any political figure who blatantly calls a race "savages" and passes laws to keep them segregated from "civilized society" has no place of reverence in our society.......

i would put eugene debs on the 20
as for what punk bands i like, here's a list: sex pistols, the ramones, channel3, the witchtrials, dead kennedys, LARD, TSOL, Minor Threat, Adolescents, DI, Agent Orange, Shonen Knife, The Joykiller, the crucif*cks, Wesley Willis, Tony Adolescent and the ADZ, and the Germs

Punk Rock will be around but its not a scene anymore like it was in the late 70's. Can't be I mean it was over before it started really, so how can it still be around?

But Punk rock isn't just about the music, as it is about attitude.
I mean punk has nothing to do with leather jackets or spiked hair (or these days spikey hair and shorts) but with attitude and having something to say.

Look at Rage Against The Machine. They are (were) more of a punk band than Sum41 or Blink182 will ever be. They're in it for the money and getting on MTV and selling t-shirts. they don't have anything to say, not like the pistols or the clash.

But my point is it doesn't have to sound like punk to be punk.
the attitude is just as important as the music.

that makes Igor Stravinsky the first punk rocker.

this is completely off all of your guys' topics but... pop punk? How is that a real genre? I mean they are two conflicting terms. May be a small little issue but it has always bugged me.

pop-punk isn't really a musical genre........it's more of adjective for pop rockers who like to dress/act like they are punks. The music is still just plain ol' bubblegum pop-rock........

Alright I have always hated punk for the most part. Mainly becuase the saying that "punk is more of an attitude than anything". That turns me off, I mean the attitude is f**k everything. I mean seriously though the Sex Pistols were idiotic, as far as their attitude they were clowns. Which is their basis right there, it's more about image than anything, and as punk is supposed to be the anti-pop it revolves around the same set of rules that true pop revolves around, selling records by having a cool persona.

Overall the thing is, genres are stupid, I mean punk has little to do with music style. Alternative is the most bland all encompassing genre in the world. Indie is being independent from...something. Grunge was a term for alternative (an already vague genre) band that wore flanels and probably lived somewhere near seattle during the early to mid 90's (but not the 80's).

There should only be two genres of rock music, crappy music and good music and they are assessed by each individual based on their musical merits alone.