Violence in music

Maybe this should go in the music forum, but it's not really about music itself... If the powers that be decide it would go better there, go ahead and move it.

Anyways, I was thinking about violence in song lyrics. Do you think kids are influenced, even subconsciously, by songs that are about violence? Do you think the artists who use said lyrics in their songs actually advocate violence, or that they just do it because it seems to be the current trend in several genres?

alot of artist have lived a violent life and there just singing/rapping or some use it to try and get a message across but i dont buy that musicians advocate violence.....people are violent by nature anyway so i say thats just a bunch of bull sh*t

The violence of lyrics it the necessary answer to the needs of youngpeople.
Maybe if society was more fair, everybody should be listen Chopin 😐

But, ofc that kids are influenced. But maybe more influenced by their closer friends, family and society.

It just a question of balance.

Popular music is a reflection of our society today. I think there ARE a lot of weak minded, emotionally insecure people out there that can't make the distinction between reality and the music they listen to. And they're further influenced by their friends who act the same way.

if music is so violent than why are there violent movies?

just because a kid and does somthing stupid dosent really mean its the musicians fault or a movie.

parents need to moditor there kids of what there watching or listening to.

take pac for example. his lyrics (most of them) were all violence. but each song (or most) had a deeper meaning to it.

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of course, there are also people who talk about violence just because it's "cool"... But I think a lot of artists (pac, quite a few underground rappers, Marilyn Manson, RATM) do what you're talking about.

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I can say this as a thirteen year old person it doesnt influence me at all 😕

I don't think it plays a big role in the influence department.

Originally posted by Corlindel

Maybe if society was more fair, everybody should be listen Chopin 😐

In his day Chopin was noted for his violence at the piano when playing.

Originally posted by Mr Zero
In his day Chopin was noted for his violence at the piano when playing.

Yep. But I hope yopu dont want to compare the violence of his music, even in XIX century, with hardcore music nowadays 😄

I was thinjing about Chopin - "The Nocturnes" played by Maria João Pires.

violence in music-- and also movies and video games-- seemed to have become a scape goat for the violence in our society when there is nothing else to blame. take for example, the violent school shootings. what did they blame? the matrix. this kids might get straight a's but those a's don't give them the attention and the emotional guidance they need especially during the "hormone" years. and there will be some tell tale signs... could be subtle, but they're there.

i also fell that it comes down to bad parenting. these young teenage mothers-- not all of them-- seem to be pre-occupied with getting trashed and partying rather than rearing a child. yes it is difficult but it was a choice-- or mistake-- that already has been, and the situations have to be dealt with accordingly. it is also disturbing to me that the government can train you to become a killing machine before it lets you purchase alcohol.

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Also, if violence in entertainment were such a big influence, then wouldn't every kid who listened to Metallica or watched the Matrix be violent? Wouldn't there also be a lot more school shootings?

Now, I don't much care for Eminem... But he has a few good lines in one of his songs:

"When a dude’s gettin bullied and shoots up his school
And they blame it on marilyn (on marilyn).. and the heroin
Where were the parents at? and look where it’s at"

Personally, I think the parents are responsible for the irresponsible/violent things their kids do 95% of the time.

i agree with dath reven because if the parents dont watch what there kid is doing than the kid might end up being a violent person.

i admit im a violent person but it wasnt from music games or movies.

i use to live in a bad enviorment at home.

I think violent music can actually be more of a release for the individual. helps ya get it out of your system. i don't really think music causes violence

I don't know truly things have changed with technology, compared to the past we are far more violent and willing to go off the deep end mostly due to the proximity of your neighbors these days.... in the 50's and before murders used to be a horrendous crime.... it used to surprise us. Perhaps this has turned full circle... violence has become so much part of our lives we no longer realize that it is a problem... yet it lies skin deep and entreched in us....

I don't think music itself (or films or games for that matter) cause violence. I suppose they could be a catalyst to someone aready violent. If music directly incited violence i would be a mass murderer by now (i never have slipknot out of my ears lol 😛)

I think kids are more affected by violence in the home and on tv because a visual communicates more than sound does.