Originally posted by HockeyHorror
Illmatic was great. but after that Nas fell 🙁
spoken like someone who doesnt want to see a nigga shine. illmatic stood out because of nas's age at the time. stillmatic was much better. and each of his cd's (excluding nastradamus) that i've heard are minimum 4.5 out of 5 stars. how can you fall and still be the best?
Okay. you guys need some help.
for one thing. for the idiot that said they liked his first album when he was underground, you obviously dont like it that much, because if you did, you'd know that it is not called "independant" its called, infinate.
2ndly, eminem does not rap about "bling" and being in "da club", that is 50's song. (btw, some other idiot here called 50 cent, 30 cent...) also, eminem did not pack up and leave detroit when he got rich, if you did your research before you went saying things, you know he still lives there and is very proud of it. one of his latest music videos is ABOUT detroit. If you even bothered to listen to any of his songs before you bad talked him, youd know that he doesn talk about shit like that an thats why people like him, because he's different. The only thing you will hear him talking about his crazy shit. because its FUNNY. its all a joke and for those of you who take him seriously, for example, f.ucking his mother, your weird. hes KIDDING. you f.ucktards. have you ever taken the time to look at his lyrics? No one can rhyme like he can. he rhymed the word oranges and though that may not seem like a big deal, can you rhyme the word orange? no. i didnt think so. here is an example of an insane song -
This crooked mind of mine got ‘em all
Shook and scared to look in my eyes
I stole that f*ckin’ clock
I took the time and I
Came up from behind
And pretty much snuck up
And butt-f*cked this game up
Better be careful when you bring my name up
F*ck this fame, that ain’t what
I came to claim but the game
Ain’t gonna be the same on the day that I leave it
But I swear one way or another I’ma make these f*ckin’ haters believe that
I swear to God, won’t spare the rod
I’m a man of my word, so your f*ckin’ heads better nod
Or I’ma f*ck around in this ***** and roast everybody
thats from lil waynes drop the world. lil wayne sucks btw.
anyway, if you listened to any of his songs, especially ones like hailie's song, and mockingbird, you would laugh at yourslef for saying what you say now. as he said in the real slim shady, "cuz im only giving you things you joke about with your friends inside your living rooms the only difference is i got the balls to say it and i wont be false or sugar coated at all, i just get on the mic and spit it --" and so on. ya he might seem mainstream, and i guess he is mainstream, but that fact doesnt take away from his talent. i dont know how you guys and sit here and say shit about him. cool if you dont like rap, but im sure you all can read, look up one song, and then tell me he sucks.
Originally posted by WickedDynamiteWell I'd say he still is in the spotlight, Eminem is still a household name. But if his popularity has decreased its probably because, I dunno, he nosedived into mediocrity and hasn't released a good album in years
I wonder why he isn't on the spotlight anymore. Oh, well...
Re: Eminem sucks...why?
Originally posted by TrAnCeDuO
the other day i was over at my fathers friends house and i was speaking with his son...he asked me if i liked eminem...i told him that he was a talentless hack who just repeats himself in the three categories of mainstream rap(those three would be 1"i got bling bling look at me"2 street survival or 3 something that relates to the club)eventually i got him to shut up but still i dont think he really understands how terrible eminem truly is....so im asking you all....please tell me (with reasoning and educated answers of course)why is this godawful artist so bad?
It's called taste in music. Everybody has a different taste.
Originally posted by Alonzo3526That's probably because either you've matured or you no longer feel anything can top that. As far as content, Relapse is without a doubt his most explicit and dark album yet. But then again you haven't heard it........
heard it was pretty good, but to me, it just didn't have that "balls-out holy shit" feel slim shady had
I like Infinite, SSLP, MMLP, TES, and Relapse just fine. It's Encore I think is mediocre.
First of all. Your three reasons are shit. Because:
A) Eminem has never rapped about bling. Never, please find a lyric where he does and show it to me, because there isnt.
B) He has never talked about street survival...Only about growing up in Detroit.
C) The only time he has ever mentioned going to a club, was in smack that where it was a guest appearance on Akons song, and in the song Shake that, where the song is in a club. And just lose it.
He never talks about shit likeother mainstream rappers, your logic is appaling, and your reasons do not make sense.
If you look a tthe words that eminem raps, and his lyrics then you take someone like lil wayne for example, you would start laughing. You would laugh becasue youd see how ****ing incredible eminem is.
you obviously dont know rap music so i dont expect you to be smart.
you ****ing fnsbh
Again, he does not repeat homself in the three mainstream rap categories, though everyone else does.
he does nt rap about that stuff becasue he focuses on rapping about him, personally, aka, his family, his life, his drug use, and crew, beefs, and stuff like that.
You obviously have never listened to an eminem song if thats what you think he raps about, its so pointless arguing with you because your obviously ****ing stupid.
He is not god awfully bad, i bet he could rhyme your two front teeth together. He was gifted with the art of rhyming and it just so happens that he's white. shit happens. The only reeason im getting so into this is becasue he doesnt rap about that stuff, and it pisses me off when people say he does, becasue he doesnt.
And becasue you think he talk about that, again, you obviously have never listened to one eminem song.
i think your arguments are completely ridiculous because they are just completely untrue, as i have said for the thousanth time. Before you rag on someone, please take the time to atleast check your facts.
Originally posted by TrAnCeDuO
the other day i was over at my fathers friends house and i was speaking with his son...he asked me if i liked eminem...i told him that he was a talentless hack who just repeats himself in the three categories of mainstream rap(those three would be 1"i got bling bling look at me"2 street survival or 3 something that relates to the club)eventually i got him to shut up but still i dont think he really understands how terrible eminem truly is....so im asking you all....please tell me (with reasoning and educated answers of course)why is this godawful artist so bad?
I personally am not a big fan of "Rap"
But to say that he talks about having "bling" and stuff is not him.
You obviously do not know what you are talking about.
Re: Eminem sucks...why?
Originally posted by TrAnCeDuO
i told him that he was a talentless hack who just repeats himself in the three categories of mainstream rap(those three would be 1"i got bling bling look at me"2 street survival or 3 something that relates to the club)
Talentless? You got to be shitting me. Lyrically, there's no mainstream artist as of now that can come close to dude.
3 categories? I smell more ignorant bullshit.
Bling: That's funny, he usually rhymes about not having as a youth; despising it. This is one of the main reasons I hear from his fans that they like him because he doesn't rap about jewelry or cars. If I Had A Million Dollars, Rock Bottom,
Street Survival: Your kidding right; any time this guy raps about being a gangster it's usually a joke. More like house survival from his estranged mother. The guy never claimed to be Nas or Jay-Z. As The World Turns, Insane, My Mom,
Something that relates to the club: Sure he raps about drinking, bitches, and drugs, and some if not most of this would take place at a club possibly. The only "club" song I ever remember him recording was a feature he did on Akon's "Smack That" from his album Konvicted which was needless to say; horrible.
Bottom line: Your blowing smoke up that little boys ass. If I were that kid I ould've put you in your place right there. I'm no Eminem stan, but what your saying about him is pure ignorance.
are you ****ing serious ill admit i ddnt like eminem at first but compared to most other rappers hes great and recovery is better thn almost anything ive heard the only thing i can think of that would ever compare to recovery is anything written by lupe fiasco i respect that everyone has ther own taste in music but if anyone wants to talk about my taste then im cool with talkin about ur shit oriented taste metal makes no sense and if u do somehow understand the lyrics its ****ing horrible emo shit and rock is more about partying than rap and besides tht what i just did is contradicting to what im about to say and itll make me look like a hypocryte but i dnt giv a **** not all music of a specific genre is the same for example some might not consider kid cudi hip hop or rap or whatever but he is and he raps 95% about life not selling drugs and killing but what he has gone through and how he has overcome it eminems entire recovery album was about recovering from his drug problems by controlling his life and not letting his career take over lupe fiasco covers a wide array of problems people go through from the usa to 3rd world countries slaughterhouse talks about killing drugs blah blah blah but atleast they can do it in a way tht sounds good it not just a good hook and talking over a beat most rock and roll no matter what is about lust and females just like hip hop nowadays but at least hip hop has a select few people that can still have lyrics i even read a couple thintgs that said you dont understand hip hop lyrics but u understand metal i think that may be becuz metal is simple "i ****ing hate everything im gnna go on a killing spree" where as rap especially lupe fiasco uses metaphors (in lupe's case extended metaphors such as those used in poems unlike wack ass rappers like wayne who use gay ass one liners eminem uses frequent one liners too but he does it in a way thts so emaculent tht it doesnt even matter) they say stuff like "chess yes baby im jerry lawler, rebel with a cause, outlaw with a lawyer"... get it no well ill give u a hint on the first half jerry lawler was a wrestler nicknamed the king and kings a related to chess in what way exactly... oh wait u dnt get it oh i see u listen to rock and ur not used to thinking and ur a dumbass man i tried to give u a simple one i guess it ddnt work
so what have we learned today
1. Don't catagorize rap into one group
2. People who listen to genres other than lyrical rap music tend to lack the intelligence of those who do
3. All these ****ing white people are racist as hell
4.You wouldn't be able to handle real hip hop so stick to your simple basic rock/pop/metal and other stupid shit
5. A couple of catagories would be
a.Gangster
b.Bay Area
c.Party
d.Rapping for the hell of it
e.Lyrical/Meaning/Life/Emotional
f. Midwest/Chicago/Detroit/etc(ex.Dark Stories, Spoken Feelings, Emotional, Opinionated)
g. Story Telling (ex.The story of the cool by Lupe Fiasco)