Originally posted by demigawd
Oan energy is part of the EM spectrum, apparently, since Photon was able to absorb and process it. If that's the case, all GL's are in serious trouble against Magneto.GL Hal (the best of them) was narrowly beaten by Dr. Polaris, and Polaris didn't even try any of the Magneto tricks.
Magneto also controls light, he could easily blast a GL with yellow-colored radiation, which would go right through the shields. Remember, yellow weakness is back.
Oan Energy is NOT part of the EM spectrum. It's connected to the Presence itself. It CAN however become any type of energy it wants. Light is it's most common form.
The third part of arguement is null since Magneto doesn't KNOW that GLs are vulnerable to yellow themed attacks.
A GL can counter anything Mags does. ESPECIALLY now that the A.I. is back.
Or using his imagination, he'll locate the mutagenic gene in Magneto and turn off his powers.
Originally posted by Draco69
Oan Energy is NOT part of the EM spectrum. It's connected to the Presence itself. It CAN however become any type of energy it wants. Light is it's most common form.The third part of arguement is null since Magneto doesn't KNOW that GLs are vulnerable to yellow themed attacks.
A GL can counter anything Mags does. ESPECIALLY now that the A.I. is back.
Or using his imagination, he'll locate the mutagenic gene in Magneto and turn off his powers.
If it weren't capable of being processed via EM manipulation, Photon wouldn't have been able to take out Guy the way she did. Booster Gold did something similar. If Photon could do it, I have no doubt Magneto could.
The yellow weakness is there for all green lanterns. a GL with sufficient will could overcome it. What that means is if Magneto were to put up a yellow forcefield, a good GL could break through it regardless of it being yellow. But that doesn't apply to a sudden yellow attack, which wouldn't be subject to willpower overcoming it. It would just cut through it.
Remember board rules, too. Characters have knowledge of each other's abilities and limitations as long as it's generally known. The opponent would know Superman is weak to K-nite, but not that Superman is Clark Kent, for example.
Magneto could just penetrate the shield and cause the GL's brain to cease functioning.
Originally posted by demigawd
If it weren't capable of being processed via EM manipulation, Photon wouldn't have been able to take out Guy the way she did. Booster Gold did something similar. If Photon could do it, I have no doubt Magneto could.
This is based on the very same crossover where Hawkeye took out Captain Atom with a containment arrow. And where Wonder Woman, She-Hulk, and Hipployta managed to defeat Surtur.
Crossovers are bull.
And Booster Gold's forcefield is YELLOW. He didn't absorb it. He deflected it.
Originally posted by demigawd
The yellow weakness is there for all green lanterns. a GL with sufficient will could overcome it. What that means is if Magneto were to put up a yellow forcefield, a good GL could break through it regardless of it being yellow. But that doesn't apply to a sudden yellow attack, which wouldn't be subject to willpower overcoming it. It would just cut through it.
A GL is vulnerable to yellow. But it simply doesn't matter. Green Lantern is simply to versatile for Magneto. While Magneto is limited to the laws of physics, GL is limited only to his imagination.
Originally posted by demigawd
Magneto could just penetrate the shield and cause the GL's brain to cease functioning.
So could GL. Or he could turn off his powers. Or he could whip out an "anti-magnetic" ray. Or he could put a forcefield inside Magneto's head and cause it to explode.
Really there's so many options GL has at it's disposal. The ring can do anything the ringbearer wants it to.
Originally posted by Draco69
This is based on the very same crossover where Hawkeye took out Captain Atom with a containment arrow. And where Wonder Woman, She-Hulk, and Hipployta managed to defeat Surtur.Crossovers are bull.
But it IS canon, so it DID happen, so when looking for evidence about the nature of Oan energy and its reactivity to other forms of energy, that's fair game. As it stands, an EM person tried to manipulate it in canon and was successful in doing so...in canon.
And Booster Gold's forcefield is YELLOW. He didn't absorb it. He deflected it.
The feedback was mighty painful for mere deflection. No reason Magneto couldn't do the exact same thing. He's made blue and gray forcefields before to block people's ability to see into it.
A GL is vulnerable to yellow. But it simply doesn't matter. Green Lantern is simply to versatile for Magneto. While Magneto is limited to the laws of physics, GL is limited only to his imagination.
But the laws of physics to the extent Magneto controls it with his intelligence and ruthlessness are more than enough to take out a GL long before they do the same to Magneto.
So could GL. Or he could turn off his powers. Or he could whip out an "anti-magnetic" ray. Or he could put a forcefield inside Magneto's head and cause it to explode.Really there's so many options GL has at it's disposal. The ring can do anything the ringbearer wants it to.
Magneto can turn off GL's ability to access his powers. Or take control of the oan energy, a la Photon, or turn the GL's own body against him. There are lots of options at Magneto's disposal too, and he can enact them instantly.
Originally posted by demigawd
But it IS canon, so it DID happen, so when looking for evidence about the nature of Oan energy and its reactivity to other forms of energy, that's fair game. As it stands, an EM person tried to manipulate it in canon and was successful in doing so...in canon.
Canon? WW defeating SURTUR?! As much as I like that notion, I still say bull****
Also this was Kyle. Without A.I. rings.
Originally posted by demigawd
The feedback was mighty painful for mere deflection. No reason Magneto couldn't do the exact same thing. He's made blue and gray forcefields before to block people's ability to see into it.
Of course it was powerful. Once a villain had a yellow stopsign that deflected the energy right back at him. Because it was YELLOW.
Originally posted by demigawd
But the laws of physics to the extent Magneto controls it with his intelligence and ruthlessness are more than enough to take out a GL long before they do the same to Magneto.
Says who? All GL has to do is think. And Magneto's down in the dust. Anything thrown at him can be absorbed. Anything attempted will be countered.
And now that the A.I. is back the victory is that much easier since the ring will automatically counter anything attempted against GL.
Originally posted by demigawd
Magneto can turn off GL's ability to access his powers.
How? Even the Primodial Sun couldn't accomplish that. GL ring finds mutagenic gene in a tenth of picosecond. GL ring turns of mutagenic gene.
Originally posted by demigawd
Or take control of the oan energy, a la Photon,
That also isn't happening. Anti-Monitor and the Starheart tried that. And failed miserably.
Originally posted by demigawd
or turn the GL's own body against him.
If you mean deciding to do a nude strip and causing GL to spontaneosly combust, sure.
But no. The ring will protect him since they already have millions of counterinitiatives.
Originally posted by demigawd
There are lots of options at Magneto's disposal too, and he can enact them instantly.
Magneto's options are futile and limited. GL's options are limitless and effective.
And what in hell makes you think Magneto will be quicker on the draw?
Originally posted by Draco69
Canon? WW defeating SURTUR?! As much as I like that notion, I still say bull****
WW's lasso tied up Surtur. In theory, even he wouldn't be able to get out of it. I'm fine with that, actually.
Also this was Kyle. Without A.I. rings.
Which means nothing. Oan energy is oan energy. Got effected by an EM manipulator. End of story.
Of course it was powerful. Once a villain had a yellow stopsign that deflected the energy right back at him. Because it was YELLOW.
Indeed? That's a damn shame. Too bad Magneto can't make things yellow.
Oh wait!
Says who? All GL has to do is think. And Magneto's down in the dust. Anything thrown at him can be absorbed. Anything attempted will be countered.
Didn't work particularly well for Hal against Dr. Polaris, did it? And as I recall, Polaris owned the entire JLA during Emperor Joker. That's right - GL AND the rest of the league. What's one GL against that?
And now that the A.I. is back the victory is that much easier since the ring will automatically counter anything attempted against GL.
When does the AI do that? In Hal's new series, the AI advises him, but doesn't automatically fight for him.
How? Even the Primodial Sun couldn't accomplish that. GL ring finds mutagenic gene in a tenth of picosecond. GL ring turns of mutagenic gene.
The Primordial who?
I don't believe GL's work that fast. I've never seen it. Magneto, on the other hand, is ruthlessly fast. As for who is going to disable who first? I have no doubt that goes to Magneto.
That also isn't happening. Anti-Monitor and the Starheart tried that. And failed miserably.
It's not how powerful you are, it's the nature of your power. Anti-Monitor and Starheart don't do the same thing Photon and Magneto do. So the comparison is invalid. A Manhunter drained Hal dry last issue. So what?
If you mean deciding to do a nude strip and causing GL to spontaneosly combust, sure.
No, I'm talking about taking over his nervous system and its electrical impulses, as soon as he bypasses the oan energy field, which would be instant because EM manipulators can do that.
But no. The ring will protect him since they already have millions of counterinitiatives.
Didn't do much good against Polaris last time.
Magneto's options are futile and limited. GL's options are limitless and effective.
Evidence says otherwise. But you're welcome to think that.
And what in hell makes you think Magneto will be quicker on the draw?
It's what he does best. He takes people out instantly. He was fast enough to block an attack by Galactus that moved at the speed of thought. That's fast.
hello crossovers are bull. They aren't good. They decide who should win beforehand and then they tell the writers to make stories that make "sense". Examples of this "sense" is Lobo being beaten by Wolverine, Storm beating WW, Superman getting his buttocks handed to him by Venom, and there are countless more.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
What is he gonna make that is yellow?A casket for his body?
Yes, yes, I've seen that one before and already explained it in my other post. If Magneto made a yellow forcefield, I'm sure Hal could now get through it. It's a function of willpower, as your own scans say. How's that going to help a sudden burst from behind? No willpower involved. there. Sorry, doesn't help.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
hello crossovers are bull. They aren't good. They decide who should win beforehand and then they tell the writers to make stories that make "sense". Examples of this "sense" is Lobo being beaten by Wolverine, Storm beating WW, Superman getting his buttocks handed to him by Venom, and there are countless more.
This isn't like any other crossover. This is a crossover acknowledged by both companies as being canon.
Originally posted by legacy92
i like the super old not ring but latern one lmao but really too me mi fav green latern is the 4th one
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Originally posted by demigawdIm willing to bet you dont read much GL.
Yes, yes, I've seen that one before and already explained it in my other post. If Magneto made a yellow forcefield, I'm sure Hal could now get through it. It's a function of willpower, as your own scans say. How's that going to help a sudden burst from behind? No willpower involved. there. Sorry, doesn't help....
I could be wrong though.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
hello crossovers are bull. They aren't good. They decide who should win beforehand and then they tell the writers to make stories that make "sense". Examples of this "sense" is Lobo being beaten by Wolverine, Storm beating WW, Superman getting his buttocks handed to him by Venom, and there are countless more.
Photon absorbing and manpulating OA energy happened in the JLA/Avengers crossover. A crossover said by Juntai, Ion, Whirly and the gang is canon. According to 2 sentences in an Avengers glossary and Busiek's comments.
Photon can manipulate OA, so can Mags. According to Whirly, it's canon.
This battle could go either way.
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