Originally posted by Df02
wow isnt this thread full of life...id like to point out here that i have absolutely no respect or pity for ppl who attempt suicide, cowards option...for people too afraid to sort their problems out, thats why i think suicidally based songs are shit aswell
have you ever considered that some people try to make things work out, but they just don't? That maybe they have tried for so long and it's jsut too overwhelming?
I'm going to make the assumption that you have never suffered from depression. 😐
I for one have battled depression all of my life and fought against suicidal thoughts for just as long...sometimes you just want to get away from it and there seems like no other options.
My cousin couldn't take it anymore and he took his life... It wasn't his fault. he was a really awesome guy...his mind was just overcome by his depression.
When I saw what his death did to my family i changed things around a little for me. I don't battle with suicidal feelings like I once did, but I still fight depression.
Try to put yourself in other people's shoes before you judge...or disresepct them. As for the music...I'm glad I can have a way to see that someone else understands what I have gone through. 😛
Life Of Agony - River Runs Red
I got the razor at my wrist
'cause I can't resist
I've got this fever burnin' fist
That does as I wish
But when I get downtown
And see what's around
I just know there's got to be
A better place to be found
Oh, God help me
The river runs red and I think I'm dyin'
Well I know there'd come a day
When my mind would say "Hey are you afraid"
Well all I know is that I been down here tryin'
Well, I'll bleed on trough the night
I suppose I'll be dead by the morinig light
So don't be suprised if you mind when you find me
The river runs red and I think I'm dyin'
The river runs red and I think I'm dyin'
Originally posted by Kella
have you ever considered that some people try to make things work out, but they just don't? That maybe they have tried for so long and it's jsut too overwhelming?I'm going to make the assumption that you have never suffered from depression. 😐
I for one have battled depression all of my life and fought against suicidal thoughts for just as long...sometimes you just want to get away from it and there seems like no other options.
My cousin couldn't take it anymore and he took his life... It wasn't his fault. he was a really awesome guy...his mind was just overcome by his depression.
When I saw what his death did to my family i changed things around a little for me. I don't battle with suicidal feelings like I once did, but I still fight depression.Try to put yourself in other people's shoes before you judge...or disresepct them. As for the music...I'm glad I can have a way to see that someone else understands what I have gone through. 😛
u've backed up my opinion with this post, nothing more...
your m8, nice as he may have been...was completely selfish, as u said he's hurt every1 in his family because he couldnt face up to sorting out his problems... theres always a way out, just takes a little willpower and the strength to fight through it...nm what the problem is!
life is a gift, not to be thrown away so selfishly, when it can always be pushed back on course.
a person tried to convince me once that his uncle was brave, for kneeling down with his head on a railroad track waiting for a train to come... i think its completely the opposite way round, for him. its was the easier option to completely give up and let himself die, it woulda been alot more brave to stay alive and fight thru his problem!
suicide isnt a personal thing, if you've got friends or family u'll be killing a little part of them when u kill urself... some selfish twats dont seem to realise that
and for the record i havent been thru depression but alot of ppl i know have, and some of them havent come thru it...
Perhaps my cousin was a little selfish to do what he did, but he's in a better place now...I know this for a fact. I'm glad he's happy and my family is glad he's happy.
Watching my friends suffer through depression is one thing...going through it myself is another thing. It's a helpless feeling. It's consuming. It shuts you down. You start to think crazy thoughts. No one can ever really explain it. It's something that has to be experienced to understand.
My Grandfather was like you. He'd never gone through it and he critisized me for suffering with it...for seeing doctors for it...for my mom spending all of that money on therapists when I could just pick myself up and change things for myself. I had to want toget better before I would.
Well...nearly two and a half years ago my Grandpa had a really really bad car accident. He was nearly killed. That was when we discovered that he had a bad heart. Well...he got put on medication for it. The meds he was put on caused depression. He had the choice to live with depression or allow his heart to give out and die. So he chose life.
He learned that some things you simply cannot pick up and make better. He became a different person that whole year. He and I grew closer as he came to understand me better. He had thoughts of disappearing into the night...or taking his life...or walking away from his marriage of 48 years... he went through a lot.
A year after his accident...when he got to actually know all of his family and love all of us for the first time...he died. He died of complications after an open heart surgery. My point is... he spent his whole life critisizing what he didn't understand....then in the last year of his life...he was made to understand...
Now i believe in God and that my grandpa was made to suffer with all the things that he critisized his family for all of his life...kind of a final clarity. That's just my idea.
Not that I want you to suffer with it...I wouldn't wish that on anyone in this world, but if you aren't careful that could jsut happen to you too.
That is all...buh-bye
Originally posted by Df02
u've backed up my opinion with this post, nothing more...
your m8, nice as he may have been...was completely selfish, as u said he's hurt every1 in his family because he couldnt face up to sorting out his problems... theres [b]always a way out, just takes a little willpower and the strength to fight through it...nm what the problem is!
life is a gift, not to be thrown away so selfishly, when it can always be pushed back on course.a person tried to convince me once that his uncle was brave, for kneeling down with his head on a railroad track waiting for a train to come... i think its completely the opposite way round, for him. its was the easier option to completely give up and let himself die, it woulda been alot more brave to stay alive and fight thru his problem!
suicide isnt a personal thing, if you've got friends or family u'll be killing a little part of them when u kill urself... some selfish twats dont seem to realise that
and for the record i havent been thru depression but alot of ppl i know have, and some of them havent come thru it... [/B]
it may be a gift but people should do what they want with it. who the hell are you to tell them what to do? Its hard these days to help people because everyone is short on paitance, common sense, and time. thats how it is. in some cases its for the better. why should they live a pointless life of suffering?(especially all the silly goths out there)Life is to be enjoyed like a fine wine but if it goes sour then whats the point?
i dont think that there is a best song about suicide other than old dark symphony pieces make me want to slit my wrists. i'd also like to point out that the dude who started this thread is a loser. anyone who likes good charlotte should not start shitty threads about music they dont even like. tool.