Could Pyro control The HumanTorch

Haven't you ever wondered if pyro could manipulate and use The Humantorch.

Johnny's still a human being. If Pyro attempted to control his flame, then he'd just put himself out and beat the crap out of him like a GI Joe character. Foot to ass. Gooooooo Joe!!!

Well technically, if Pyro could control the Human Torch, couldn't he make it so Johnny wouldn't be able to put himself out?

well now you're saying Johnny no longer controls his own flame. He's the one that controls whether or not her turns from human into the Torch. Interesting question....i'd like to hear Never's response to this.

Pyro can just manipulate the flame, and the Torch is still a human being at the center. It's like saying, "Couldn't Pyro control the sun?" The sun may have lots of fire and such, but, in the center, it's not fire. He could maybe generate a few solar flares, but not much else.

Of course, this is assuming Pyro could get close enough to the sun and would have the magnitude of power required to "control" the sun.

Which would never happen.

The sun doesn't have any fire in it.

That's why I said "and such". Didn't want to get into that arguement, was just using it as an example.

WOW great question, never realy fought of that till now.
I think he could control him to a certain degree but the torch could go human form and beat the crap outta him. There wouldnt be any need for pyro to have a flamethrower or lighter as he could just use johnny, but hitting him with fireballs and stuff wouldnt realy hurt him 😬
Maybe he could take all the fire away from him so he couldnt turn into the human torch? not sure, i wouldnt mind never's opinion either. ✅

why does he need a lighter. Because he cant generate his own fire. He could take the flame from the human torch, but... he cant control the human... remember, the human is inside, hed just use him as a lighter, he could take the flame off him, but thats it.
Now, if a being was PURE fire, no human at all, Hed be able to do whatever he wanted to it, But all hed be doing is controlling the human torches TORCH, not the human.

yea so like i said he might be able to take all the fire away so he cant turn into the torch.

i think pyro could in fact control some of johnny's flames. but out of the two who can be burned?

Nope, the human torch produces his own gases and fire starting stuff, he could just keep taking the flame and flame, but more would just keep coming out of the human torch as long as hes never said "Flame off" hes like a lighter with infinate butane.

HEY, I HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT PYRO COULD DO:
lETS SAY THE TORCH WOULD BE FLYING IN THE AIR REALLY HIGH UP, PYRO COULD TAKE AWAY ALL THE FIRE SO HE FALLS AND DIES, THAT WOULD BE FUNNY

I found some interesting information...

Ordinarily, when aflame, the Human Torch is enveloped by a low intensity flame of low level plasma (reddish, approximately 780 Fahrenheit), which ranges from 1 to 5 inches from his body. He can, however, generate much higher levels and flames about himself. The Torch refers to his highest, hottest levels of plasma that he can create as his "nova flame." The exact temperatures that his "nova flame" can attain are not known.

Plasma, eh? Not true fire, but plasma. WAH!

Anyway, better and more pertinent information here:

The original Human Torch can telekinetically control not only flames and flame objects that he himself creates, but also flames he did not create.

And that's the end of that chapter.

didnt you read what I said snake eyes? Human torch infiniatley makes fire, you cant take it away, he just keeps producing it.

Originally posted by FeceMan
That's why I said "and such". Didn't want to get into that arguement, was just using it as an example.

There might be some such in it, but there's no fire.

STOP IT!

Torch controld fire too....and the magnitude of his power is way out of Pyro's league....Pyro is just a bootleg mutant wanna be human torch....he is still cool...but compared to the Torch he is nothing

yeah he is^^^ pyro is the worst x men character ever.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Torch controld fire too....and the magnitude of his power is way out of Pyro's league....Pyro is just a bootleg mutant wanna be human torch....he is still cool...but compared to the Torch he is nothing

exactly