The True Meaning of an "R" rating

It depends to me how long the scene is, porns are full out, a few seconds maybe even minutes I don't think constitues for a NC-17 rating.

And in my opinion I think gore, and blood, and the lot is much worse than some skin, that's just human nature, but blowing someone up isn't 😛

And if the censor a few minutes of the scene (mind you I haven't seen it) what's next, censoring Sexual Reproduction videos in science and health classes 🙄

Originally posted by silver_tears
It depends to me how long the scene is, porns are full out, a few seconds maybe even minutes I don't think constitues for a NC-17 rating.

And in my opinion I think gore, and blood, and the lot is much worse than some skin, that's just human nature, but blowing someone up isn't 😛

And if the censor a few minutes of the scene (mind you I haven't seen it) what's next, censoring Sexual Reproduction videos in science and health classes 🙄

well now this is a good point. I hadnt thought of that. Good one 🙂

I didn't see cold mountain ... sensed the mushiness from a mile away...

I agree with the idea that R and NC-17 are very different.

If they deem it inappropriate, then they simply don't allow their kids to see the movie, simple as that

Yep; I meant that's as much parents can really do. The kids are going to see it if you want them to, or not, so there's not much sense in restricting them too much.

WOW, I guess I must have run a boot camp then. My kids didnt go anywhere without me knowing where they were. And there was many a time I made sure they were where they said they were going to be. The 2 times my oldest daughter skipped high school it was me that caught her, not the school. I pretty much told them both and will with the next one that as long as they lived under my roof they followed my rules. Now my son couldnt abide by that and got thrown out at the ripe old age of 15. He got to move back in 4 months later for another chance, got caught sneaking out again and he was done permanently. To this day the oldest thanks me for keeping her on such a short leash....she said she'd have probably been in all kinds of trouble. Note: not all children are like this. Probably 50% of em do as they are told by their parents, but the rest of em? They are under the impression that they are owed all sorts of things from their parents when in fact all they are owed is room and board and the benefit of their wisdom. But I digress, silver, I also hate the growing violence in movies and there are many times PG13 should have an R rating but then its all about making a buck.

You think your kids didn't go anywhere without you knowing where they were... But trust me when I say it's not hard to get around your parents asking where you're going. I don't do it much myself, my parents let me see R rated movies when they're around... But I know plenty of kids who have snuck into movies before. You think you know everything about your kids, but you don't. I'm not accusing you of being a bad parent, because you're only doing the responsible thing, which is to do your best to know where they are at all times. But there are circumstances when it's just not possible.

Anyways, IMO violence is much worse than sex. They teach kids about sex in school, anyways, so how is it any different to see it in a movie theater than in an educational video in a health class?

SO true, and not every parent can know where or what their child is doing 24-7, but trust me...I had a tendency to go above and beyond, I remember actually going into a party and dragging my oldest out because she had lied to me about where she was going. ANd that wasnt the punishment either. Funny thing is, growing up I swore I would be more lienent that my parents were with me, just didnt work out that way. I kept the no dating till you are 16 rule too! 😆 😆
And holy smoke what are they showing you guys in health class these days?

The more you restrict, the more they will rebel!

I was never restricted anything very muhc, but i also never did any of the shitty things, or lie my mother and i always trusted her she'll be cool if i really got into trouble.

Well, I haven't seen Cold Mountain, so I can't comment on that, but on the whole R-rated thing...

The thing with R-rated movies (at least in my area) is that you must be at least 17 to get in, if you're under 17 you must be with someone that's at least 21 (that part I find to be crap), and no one under the age of 6 is allowed in after 6 PM. So it's really up to the parents, even though any teenager with half a brain will know how to sneak into R-rated movies before they're 17 -- hell, I did it all the time. My friends and I went to go see Hannibal for either my 15th or 16th birthday and they didn't even ask us how old we were, and we didn't have an adult with us. My point is, is that teenagers will always be going to see R-rated movies, regardless of whether they have parental permission or not. It's just a thing that kids do. My mom was pretty strict, and she told me that I couldn't see Rocky Horror Picture Show until I was 17. Guess what, I saw it when I was 15 and it's one of my favorite movies, and she still doesn't know that I saw it two years before I was supposed to 😂 And I'm getting waaaay off topic but whatever. My point is, ratings are just suggestions. My mom gave me permission to see many an R-rated film before I was 17...and of course there are all the ones she told me I couldn't see but did anyway 😄

And with nudity being such an issue...like has been said, that's natural, but people blowing up isn't. Yet what does everyone always make a huge deal over?

And thankfully I had health class two and a half years ago so I don't need to think about that anymore...😐

Originally posted by finti
well I havent seen Cold Mountain, but when it comes to showing some skin, the Americans are way too "chicken". It is ok that someones head is blown to pieces but they yell up whenever a breast is shown. Guess we Scandinavians are a little more liberated in the view of showing some skin ...... and the lot😉 . But if it have an R rating I dont see what the big deal is. If you watch a R rated film you now you are infor some scenes that might seem uneasy on some but hell you better be prepared because of the R rating

I agree 100% with that statement. It's okay to see horrible violence in an R rating, but oh no, god forbid they show two people expressing their love to one another. It's just foolish, and quite hypocritical.

who said that?

It's just the basic mentality of today. Everyone's okay with violence, blood and swear words in an R rated movie, but when people are having sex everyone goes nuts. When I have a child, I'd much rather take them to an R rated film that has nudity and sex rather then violence and gore and cussing.

Originally posted by BackFire
It's just the basic mentality of today. Everyone's okay with violence, blood and swear words in an R rated movie, but when people are having sex everyone goes nuts. When I have a child, I'd much rather take them to an R rated film that has nudity and sex rather then violence and gore and cussing.

Bingo! Nail on the head. 🙂

I am and have been for some time amused about how they accepted violence but not nudity and sex scenes in America.
One good example was Basic Instinct, I visited Arkansas in 1992 and talked about the movie. One of the dudes had spent the summer in Denmark and seen Basic there, he was soooo pleased with that cause he got to see parts of Sharon that he didnt when he watched the flick in Arkansas. ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh another example was when I lived in Arkansas I brought a tape with Roger Waters(ex basist of Pink Floyd) called "The pros and cons of hitch hiking." The sleeve showed a nude girl(from behind) hitch hiking, in the US version the girls ass was cencored 😄 😄 .
But again as of lately it seems like the flicks are getting more and more daring when it gets to show certain parts of the actors body. The US has come up to the level of the Europeans on what to show. Looks like actors/actresses with an attitude of never showing something might have problem getting roles cause the new trend is show something and get work, or stand fast and dont show........no work.
Examples here Meg Ryan and her role In The Cut, not that she hasnt shown things before but that has only been split 1/10 of a second glimps.

Going back a few posts ago about getting into R-rated movies, people have, and still do, buy tickets for, say, Star Wars at the box office and when they get to the corridor of theaters just simply walk into the theater showing the R-rated film.

They very rarely have ushers standing outside the theater, and it's usually for like the opening 2 nights of Freddy vs. Jason to get them to do that. And as far as dragging kids out of the theater, nope, they could care less about going to that measure for $7.00 an hour.

I still do that, too, but not for R-rated movies since I'm 28. Last year some PG-13 movie was sold out, so I bought a ticket for something else and just walked into the sold out theater. As far as taking someone's seat (which I didn't b/c they underestimated it), that's a different issue which doesn't need to be debated here, my point was buying and seeing films at the theater can be two different stories.

Jedi Priestess, even if your kids are grown I'm sure in their earlier days they've done the practice I've just described, especially since you said one of them lied to you about that party you dragged them out of.

there are ushers here in Norway, at least at the local theatres. And here the seats are numbered so your ticket asign you to what row and seat to sit you butt down in. This way they have total control. We have also screens that shows how many seats are left to each theatre in case you wondered if it is a waste of time getting in line. Me I buy all my tickets online then go tho the theathre and pick up hte tickets in asigned computers situated around the theatres

I don't think that the sex scene in Cold Mountain should be NC-17 rated 😖 well ok, it was a bit more than the usual nude stuff in such movies, but it really wasn't any worse than others

I generally disagree with the ratings and all, they do nothing, my parents allowed me to watch whatever I wanted and do my choices, and it didn't make me any less normal than other teenagers 😛

In fact, I have a friend whose parents are very protective, and they always forbid her to do stuff, so when she grew up, she revoluted hugely to do whatever they didn't let her do.

It depends on the child's maturity, and the parents' judgement, ratings are silly imho (well, there might be some cases in which they are needed, but generally I think we can live without it). If a movie is NC-17 rated, a 15 year old will wait for it to come out in VHS or DVD and watch it no matter what

and agreed, better watch sex scenes rather than violence, at least it will affect you in a better way 👆

FYI an R rating actualy means for 17+

just to let ya know

I don't think that the sex scene in Cold Mountain should be NC-17 rated well ok, it was a bit more than the usual nude stuff in such movies, but it really wasn't any worse than others