i dont think people are born evil to me they seem to be influenced by either television / books or other happenings in the world .... like the yorkshire ripper ... obvioulsy had sidings with jack the ripper
lil kids fllushing lil fish down the toilets because AlL drains lead to the ocean (finding nemo ) so thisshows things like that effect the way people act and live there lives...
Originally posted by The Omega
BangoBinga> Okay, BingaBonga 😉 I’m famed for misspelling people’s names. My apologies.
But there is nothing to indicate that such a thing as the soul exists. You may call it soul, I probably use a word such as personality.
There are many things that have no indication that they do exist, but that's where belief comes in, and I don't think that a soul and personality are the same thing. A soul goes a lot deeper. It reveals your inner self that even you may not discover till the right time. You always know what your personality is. 😉
i dunno i know a few people who are pretty evil....this one friend of mine became friends with me and then i guess she looked over my shoulder one day to see my pin, she took my bank card, stole $740 then hung out with me for a week offering to buy me stuff cause she ''felt bad someone stole my wallet" anyways the cops caught her on 5 different cameras using my card and then she finally confessed to it....i think she was born evil.
Look at our world, our labor force, our military, our laws, our so-called freedom of rights. . . slavery is all around us. We just think we're free.we are as free as we want to be, if you think what you mention is slavery well then I guess you have to live in your little gloomy world.
Noone is born evil, evil is a trade that is learned
I think there are two kinds of "evil" people:
The ones that are naturally cruel (evil) , whom i believe are insane, because they don't 'win' anything if they hurt someone;
AND the ppl who used to be good, but something happened (beaten up in childhood, the army, a certain loss, etc. ), and lost their affection in time.
Originally posted by ladygrim
i dont think people are born evil to me they seem to be influenced by either television / books or other happenings in the world .... like the yorkshire ripper ... obvioulsy had sidings with jack the ripper
lil kids fllushing lil fish down the toilets because AlL drains lead to the ocean (finding nemo ) so thisshows things like that effect the way people act and live there lives...
😇 Now, ladygrim so you'e saying it's possible for Movies, books..other things in the world to create a person to be evil?
😄 hmm You know where i'm going with this don't ya? hehehe hp..work of the devil, ring a bell? See it is possible 🙂
Originally posted by BingaBonga
There are many things that have no indication that they do exist, but that's where belief comes in, and I don't think that a soul and personality are the same thing. A soul goes a lot deeper. It reveals your inner self that even you may not discover till the right time. You always know what your personality is. 😉
No, beliefs are not an indication that souls exist, because beliefs aren't based on fact. There's no evidence to back the existence of a soul. There is however, evidence of the subconcious.
[ LONG, BUT EXPLAINS MY POINT (BARE WITH ME) ]
ON EVIL
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It is my belief that morals are simply a case of "doing to others as you would wish done to you". If you dont like it, it goes against your morals.
Where do these moral come from?
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Some people learn from their mistakes, others do not.
Why is this?
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It is my opinion that people must be born with the ability to learn from mistakes, or develop it.
For example, when you were young and fell off your bike it was an immediate reaction to realise (learn) that this wasn't something you wanted to do again; due to the pain or embarressment.
If, knowing this, you then cause the same incident to occur to another person (who you have no objection against) by pushing them from their bike, you clearly do not care for their wellfare and have no objection with inflicting the pain that was subjected to you.
By commiting this act you would be breaking your morals. after all, you did not like it, but are happy to inflict it on another.
Having commited the act, if you feel no remorse (not publicly, but privately) then you could be deemed morally bad or malicious.
Both the terms "morally bad", and malicious describe the word evil (look in the dictionary).
Obviously, the scale of action will determine how evil.
Therefore, if you learn from your mistakes and realise the consequenses yet still inflict them on others (in the form of pain or loss) you could be deemed evil (to a certain extent.)
If you do not know the consequences of the action, you are not evil but misguided.
This does not make your actions right, but you too dumb. You should be punished for your actions, because experience is the only way to learn the true moral objectives within you.
I dont want to preach I just feel this is the case. Pretty logical really.
Hannibal lectur (a film) was a sikcko. But probably beacsue he saw a lot of negativity and uselessness in people. He probably saw the existance of some people as pointless, but his existance was too (in my opinion).
We are one and the same, with different opinions and moods. What makes me right and you wrong? The answer to that is in your head now. Becasue it is you who knows. The only truth can be developed within your head, bsed on experience of what I say or what you see/hear.
So, back to the point of being born evil. Yes, some people are. They will inflict what they know is wrong with limted reasoning. probably beacause they are selfish and arrogant.
This limited reasoning makes them evil. They do it for their satisfaction or becasue they can, with complete disregard of their morals. They are born with this limited reasoning.
Admitidly, they have never been killed or cut up, so they have not felt the pain. But they know its wrong. we all feel bad sometimes (guilty), and these pople embrace these bad feelings and enjoy them. Its an evil action, they know, but they embrace it and take its hand.
Nasty bastards. Killing them is not enough, they should be left with themselves.
Thats the worst torment available for these people. Leave them to rot in their own minds, and throw away the key. Once they realise how pathetic and useless their existance is they will have to make a choice. but unfortunatly, it will be too late for them.
If they get out, kill them. Their only flesh and blood.
Take the case of James bulgar, wher two 10 year olds took a three year old (lost) child from the mall. They took him to a railway miles from his mother in the hall, torturing him all the way as he cried for his "mum" in the way only a child can. Hitting him and poiking him. Laid him down and put paint in his eys. Stuck batteries into his armpits and skin while he was crying. Beat him with stones and brick. causing him horrific injuries, pain and destress. barte in mind he would have been very small, juskt a "winky" as my girlfriend calls them.
After having beat him within an inch of his life over a long time period he died. They then left him on a train track so that a passing train would dispose of the evidence for them.
That, my friend, IS EVIL.. THEY WERE YOUNG, yes, BUT EVIL!!
I used to hit my younger brothers, but never, never, never could I picture myslef acting in this way. It is not just wrong, I couldn't bring myself to do it.
THEY ARE QUITE SIMPLY EVIL!!!
If you think it any other way, you are wrong. Experience may have caused them to act this way, but their "pleasure" obviously made them do it.
Everyone is differnet.
Everyone thinks different.
So some are born evil. (you know they wouldn't want that done to them.)