beating Hulk is craptastic writing, Lobo is luaghable and Immposible
same goes with Spiderman, Cyclops*didnt he kick Wolvie's ass recently over Emma?* AND Venom
Death? isnt that a Horseman of apocolypse not really Wolverine? thought so
deafeted Ninja's? isnt Elektra a ninja? and she did what? OH yeah! put Wolverine on his ass
so your right that dosent mean much to me. Firelord was a herald of Galactus, that fight was IN continuity.
Originally posted by VENOMfan
beating Hulk is craptastic writing, Lobo is luaghable and Immposiblesame goes with Spiderman, Cyclops*didnt he kick Wolvie's ass recently over Emma?* AND Venom
Death? isnt that a Horseman of apocolypse not really Wolverine? thought so
deafeted Ninja's? isnt Elektra a ninja? and she did what? OH yeah! put Wolverine on his ass
Actually Cyclops did not kick Wolverines ass, he blasted him once and the fight was broken up right b4 Wolverine was about to fight back. I was referring to other fights where Wolverine does prove to be better than Cyclops. U seemed to ignore my other points btw.
Death is still Wolverine, he was just posessed by Apocalypse, which did not affect his strength. Oh yeah, and he has also held his own against Juggernaut. Your AND Venom statement made no sense. In the Venom series he fought with Wolverine and Wolvie held his own. How is him fighting the Hulk craptastic writing? He did not beat the Hulk, but he did not lose either. He has beaten the Punisher, who btw almost killed Spiderman. Your Elektra statement had no point, i am saying he defeated 100's of Hand ninjas and Baron Strucker during WW2. and he defeated thousands (count that number if u do not know how much it is) of Samurai warriors for his family.
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Your AND Venom statement made no sense. In the Venom series he fought with Wolverine and Wolvie held his own.
why was I spare on answer your point's? becuase it pointless! there have been thread's about Cyclop's vs Wolverine any body can see how easily Cyclop's can beat Wolverine.
go dig up that thread if you want to keep debating same with Hulk vs Wolverine same with Spiderman vs Wolverine
all those are fanboy vs realist.
sorry puddin but Wolverine is not "the best at what he does"
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Venom vs Wolverine? I call BULLSHIT, first off that was a clone symbiote with no host! Wolverine was fighting a squishy half ass'ed Venom. not the real macoy your referencing Marvel ((tsunami)) Venom a far fecthed line.
In fact isnt this the same series were Wolverine
and I quote SURVIVES A NUCLEAR BLAST! explain that please
the real Venom would kick Wolverine's ass buddy. we have a thread about that two. go learn somthin about those dispute's and come back with an argument worth adressing
Wolverine beat's Lobo pffffft!
you are obviously biased towards Venom and Spiderman. But i know Wolverine is not the best, i am saying you are wrong when you say Wolverine has no chance ever against Spiderman.
They have fought b4 and guess what? Wolverine was not severely beaten in in 2 seconds like u seem to think he would. Wolverine is not some loser VenomFan, maybe u should do the reading.
I dont think Wolverine will go down in 2 second's.
my post's are short and too the point, becuase Im too busy to be thurow.
Iam not baised twards Venom and Spiderman, I will argue there case's becuase they are character's I like.
did I say either Spiderman or Venom could beat Lobo?
no
did I say Venom can beat Ironman?
no
I call em like I see em. and If I think Wolverine is going to lose I will say it
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
"Has Wolverine ever done anything near as spectacular as Spidey?"
quote from VenomFanHmmmm, lets see:
he has held his own or defeated these ppl: Lobo, Spiderman, Venom, Punisher, Sabertooth, Cyclops, Wendigo, Hulk, and many more.
Some stuff he has done:
Led the Alpha Flight because they sought him out due to his skills, Fought thousands of Samurais to save his family, defeated Baron Strucker and hundreds of Hand Ninjas to get free the Black Widow, fought and held his own against the entire X-men team when he was known as Death, dueled and defeated a Silver Samurai, helped rescue the whole X-men team when Proff. X needed him. He has done much more also if u do not believe me.Due to his extensive training as a CIA operative, a Samurai, and as a member of the Weapon X program, Wolverine is a master of multiple forms of martial arts, weapons, and vehicles. He is also a trained expert in computers, explosives, and assassination techniques.
But i guess that is nothing to you, right?
Interesting, all of this and Elektra beat his ass silly and had him clutching his LUNGS (she punctured both of them) and left for dead. But this is about Spiderman vs. Wolverine...
Some stuff Wolverine has done? Get his ass almost killed by Elektra, concede that Elektra WOULD kill him, get stopped cold in his tracks by Daredevil with a karate chop to the throat, get stalemated by Punisher AND Archangel (during the story arc in Genosha when Jim Lee drew him), get knocked out by Omega Red (X-Men relaunch with Jim Lee), had his claws broken by Sabertooth, get stalemated by Sabertooth, get frightened to death by Cyber, struggle MIGHTILY against Silver Samurai (Uncanny #173), get absentmindedly backhanded by Spiderman in Secret Wars #3 when he ran through all of the X-Men without getting touched (since we are referencing X-Men fights).
Hand ninjas? Daredevil with Stick and Stone waded through "hundreds of Hand ninjas." They did it here:
Elektra singlehandedly killed countless numbers of members of the Hand. Hand ninjas are merely fodder. Not impressive.
Silver Samurai? LoL, he was getting his ass beaten. He broke Samurai's arm in the end, however - and Samurai ranks where on the list of Marvel's greatest martial artists? Behind Elektra, Shang Chi, Gamora, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Black Panther, Captain America - i.e. WAY down there. Not impressive.
He is a master of multiple forms of martial arts and gets his ass routinely handed to him by...masters of multiple forms of martial arts. Not impressive.
Am sorry to say that Spiderman is ROUTINELY written as a better - hmm, more RESOURCEFUL combatant than Wolverine is. In pure h2h one THINKS Wolverine would have the upper hand based on pure martial arts skills, but Spiderman has developed his own eclectic fighting style - not to mention that his reflexes are faster than a human's by a factor of 15. Wolverine HAS no superspeed and CANNOT "dodge bullets" in the same manner that Spiderman can.
Spiderman is quicker, faster, oodles stronger, and has his Spidey sense.
One can make a WEAK argument that Wolverine can defeat Spiderman - however, how can one defeat what one cannot TOUCH?
Do recall Daredevil slaughtering Sabertooth in Daredevil #213. Sabertooth landed a few blows while Daredevil was burdened with the hostage; however, after the hostage escaped, Daredevil kicked Sabertooth's ass without being touched. Sabertooth ran and ducked into a sewer to escape.
The same Sabertooth that routinely gives Wolverine fits. Daredevil stomped him. Sabertooth easily carved up Wolverine.
Spiderman > Daredevil. Is it really necessary to continue...?
well, technically all it would take would be one solid hit from Wolverines claws. I mean, Spiderman could not survive a stab wound to the head or chest.
and I do think Wolverine would be able to "touch" spidey. It also depends on what comic they fight in. If they fought in Amazing Spiderman for an example, they would make Spiderman win.
Also Wolvie could handle or heal from anything Spiderman could dish out, Spiderman could not.
Considering Spiderman's vastly superior reflexes coupled with his spidey sense it is conceivable that Wolverine would, at best, land only a flesh wound.
Again, Elektra emerged unscathed save a leg slash which she purposely offered Wolverine as a means up setting him up for the coup de grace she later served up.
Spiderman is quicker than Elektra...and no, Wolverine can NOT handle "anything Spiderman can dish out." If Spiderman pushed a steel rod through his BRAIN (via his eyes which are not adamantium laced) is he healing from that?
No.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Nobody won and nobody lost."At the end Spider-Man was on his back and all Wolverine would have had to do to kill him would have been to unsheath his claws.
Had him at his mercy.
-AC
No he didn't have him on his mercy.
Wolverine is no way strong enough to hold Spider-Man down, not even for a few seconds, and don't forget the spider-sense: if Wolverine really was going to use his claws, the spider-sense would have jumped in and Wolverine would have been flying through the air.
Theoretically, Wolverine has a chance against Spider-Man. That's all one can say about a Wolverine vs Spider-Man thread, in my opinion.
But it's a small chance and no, I do not underestimate our hairy friend : he's fast, tough, experienced and knows how to use his claws.
But he's simply not in the same league as Spider-Man, just like Spider-Man isn't in the same league as Lobo.
When written right, Wolverine can not lay a finger on Spider-Man.
"If Spiderman pushed a steel rod through his BRAIN (via his eyes which are not adamantium laced) is he healing from that?"
Actually Wolverine could heal from that, but anyway, i do not think Wolverine would sit there and let Spiderman do that. He also has WAY more experience than Spiderman, and if he had prep time , he could just wire the place with enough explosives to kill Spiderman. Because Wolverine has had the training to do so.
"No he didn't have him on his mercy.
Wolverine is no way strong enough to hold Spider-Man down, not even for a few seconds, and don't forget the spider-sense: if Wolverine really was going to use his claws, the spider-sense would have jumped in and Wolverine would have been flying through the air."
Would you like me to scan the pages and put them here to show you? Coz Wolverine had Spider-Man down, his fist to his chin read to puncture his face. Not claiming it was NOT down to the writers, just that it happened.
-AC
hah
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
you are obviously biased towards Venom and Spiderman. But i know Wolverine is not the best, i am saying you are wrong when you say Wolverine has no chance ever against Spiderman.
They have fought b4 and guess what? Wolverine was not severely beaten in in 2 seconds like u seem to think he would. Wolverine is not some loser VenomFan, maybe u should do the reading.
snake eyes told you venom fan. maybe you should have done your research. this is a conflict of interest for me so i'll just leave it alone
Spiderman vs Wolverine thread.
and sorry kid Ive debated plenty of VS thread's concerning Wolverine.
check out these thread's
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21541&highlight=Hulk+vs+Wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30968&highlight=Hulk+vs+Wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28771&highlight=Hulk+vs+Wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=293424&highlight=Venom+vs+Wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29054&highlight=Venom+vs+Wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=292287&highlight=Venom+vs+Wolverine
Originally posted by who?-kid
I know it happened, I just don't agree with it. Bad writing, Spider-Man is much much faster, stronger, agile... and has an inbuilt alarm system.Wolverine is a powerless snail compared to Spider-Man.
Another thing that happened : see below 🙂
Thank god for who?-kid!
there you have it fella's