yes i have sen creed live. What do you mean by Jesus like poses? what the hell is a jesus like pose? Do you mean standing on stage spreading his arms? MANY MANY lead singers do that. Dont you htink maybe that can simulate flying away, as in getting away from the troubles and turmoil of every day life,rising to lnew levels of enlightenment as is the basic concept of alot of there songs. Dude how many christian bands deny they are christian rock? Christian rock is preaching, or a form of prayer in the music. Just because some of creed songs are inspired by religoun doesnt mean they are christian rock, MANY MANY other musicians have also written songs inspired by God or religoun, this doesnt make them christian rock. Not that i would care one way or the other, but the fact is that they are defaintly not christian rock.