Jay and Silent Bob

Started by kal-el2 pages

It makes sense that McFarlane invented Venom though. He's great but what a dark, sick, twisted f*ck!

Originally posted by kal-el
Too right Logan, I just remembered how much he's pissed me off by leaving us hangin with Daredevil Bullseye - the target. It seems like he just wrote that one comic to get 9/11 out of his system and forgot about the rest. Which comic was blackcat gonna get raped? and by who? I take it it was a spiderman comic.
f**k kevin smith, f**k him up his stupid ass!

I'm more pissed about "Black Cat/Spider-Man" (the comic in which the Cat was about to be raped at the cliffhanger), because I hate that kind of manipulation, but the fact that Smith interfered with Brian Michael Bendis' (you know, the guy who writes at least half of all Marvel comics and at least 20 others each week?) story in "Daredevil" by reserving Bullseye for the time being. He never got around to continuing "Target" so Bendis eventually went ahead and let Bullseye come back for an issue so he could get schooled by ol' Horn-head. it was actually good timing in the end.

VenomFan, thanks for the props. 😎

Spawnie, McFarlane didn't necessarily invent Venom. He drew him. I don't remember who was actually writing the comics at that point, but consider that the beginning of Venom was actually years in advance. Remember the black costume that Spider-Man with which Spider-Man returned from the Secret Wars? That's Venom's underwear right there. Venom's character may or may not have been already planned out when the symbiote went back with Spider-Man.

Logan, who was gonna rape the blackcat?And what was the issue no?

I think it was a four part mini-series or something like that, so it might have been issue 3. The rapist is some rich guy with a mutant ability to teleport small amounts of matter. He uses this ability to transport heroin into people's systems, so they could have an overdose and never have tried the drug. After discovering his involvement in the death of a friend of a friend, the Black Cat wanted to give this guy her own personal brand of justice. Spider-Man tried to reason with her and being the dumb ***** that she is, she attacked him and webbed him up with his own toys. I found this incredible and ridiculous, but it shows you why Batman would probably win a fight against Spider-Man. Anyway, the Black Cat went to this guy's apartment, not knowing about his powers, and he drugged her. She was paralyzed, but conscious, and he stated very clearly while removing his shirt that he was going to punish her in the worst way he could think of. To be continued... I could be getting some details wrong, I don't remember vividly because it was left like that YEARS AGO!!

Part of me thinks she deserves it if the villain does violate her, because anyone who's been doing the job she does for as long as she has should be smarter than this. Because rape makes me sick and I condemn all who've ever tried it, I realize my feelings to wards the Black Cat are due to her betrayal of Spider-Man and mostly displaced anger at Kevin Smith for putting this in a story at all. Let's face it, at the time this was published, rape was a theme used in practically every non-mainstream, Marvel title from "Spider-Man: Get Kraven" to "Ultimate Electra and Daredevil." It's like people took it as a green light when Marvel ditched the Comics Code deal to just flood the market with coarser language and gratuitous sexual violence references. I understand that it's a real crime and it needs addressing, but I feel it's being used very manipulatively in these books. Eh, who am I to talk. I compose my own characters in the hopes of writing fleshed-out stories, and a common theme in my story ideas is to have the main character track down sexual predators and enact retribution that's just slightly less horrifying than "The Passion of Christ." But that's my characters and my sick mind. I expect Marvel comics to be more subtle than that. They've had Spider-Man comics for decades. If they want to introduce rape, they should do it smoothly and with more consideration. They should have Spider-Man think about it as a wide-spread problem. Then again, I don't really want to see Spider-Man showing us his pansy-ass vigilante politics and showing mercy to pure scum. I love Spider-Man as an action hero and as a swinging comedian, but it's no secret that he's a gutless pansy when it comes to keeping criminals from hurting people. That's the necessary evil that comes with having long-running villains. I wouldn't want Spider-Man to be harder, really. Luckily, we have problem-solvers like Wolverine for that.
Truthfully, I hope Spider-Man breaks free of his webbing and saves the Black Cat's deceitful, rookie ass and the ***** learns a lesson from the whole thing. But that's if Kevin "responsible pot-head" Smith ever graces us with an ending. You know that they already have an action figure set based on Kevin Smith's series? It's pretty awesome. But because Smith has turned me off of Black Cat by this horrific cliffhanger, I can't bring myself to spend 20 bucks for it. And I'm not sure my fiance would want me to keep that smutty action figure in our home. 😛

This is gonna be a dumb question.. but I am looking for pictures of Silent Bob.. specifically one of him as Bluntman holding a Bluntsaber... when he fought Mark Hamill.... if anyone has a nice pic of him doing so... please post.. i need a new avy and bad... thx

bails.. why didnt ya just come to me first? you know i'm a total kevin smith whore! i'll dig up some pics for ya babe 😉

Keith Smith's movies are the greatest!!