Iron Man vs Spider-Man

Started by who?-kid12 pages

(I'm lazy, I admit it, but it's been a long day, so I will just copy and paste something I wrote in this thread some time ago)

I hope I don't sound as some biased fanboy (which I am, by the way ), but Spider-Man can hurt Iron Man. He can web him up very fast and throw him a few times against a building. Or under a passing train. Or use him a few minutes as a punching bag.

Iron Man will feel that, trust me.

Spider-Man can beat Iron Man, but I admit he would have to give everything he got. But then again, I also believe Iron Man is not fast enough to hurt/damage/hit Spider-Man.

And below is something I found on the Internet (thanks to the writer):

For instance, one comic had an Iron Man from the future go back in time to get a retina scan from a child who would grow up to be a psychopathic murderer. He accidentally injures the kid in the process and Spidey goes absolutely ape-shit. By the time Spidey's finished, there are pieces of that suit hanging off! The face-plate was cracked, the breastplate was smashed, and the guy inside was actually bleeding from his wounds!

Moral of the story : do not underestimate a berserk Spider-Man. Iron Man is tougher and stronger, sure, but not half as fast as Spider-Man. Spider-Man can dodge (reflexes ! agility !! spider-sense !!!) every attack of Iron Man while knitting a sweater for MJ.

like i said, spidey somehow always wins...

Originally posted by Evangel94
That wasn't Tony Stark. Arno (A crazy psychopath that found an old Iron Man armor). That's Iron Man 2020.

No shit ?! 😉
You can't pick one instance and base your whole argument around it.

Yes I can. It's the closest thing we've got. Too bad you don't like it.

Originally posted by who?-kid

No shit ?! 😉 [/B]

Originally posted by who?-kid

Well, the fight HAS already happened (Spider-Man vs Iron Man from the future), and Spider-Man tore Iron Man apart => Spider-Man wins. What's there to argue about ? [/B]

You clearly do not state Iron Man 2020 or Arno anywhere here. People who are unfamiliar with the history of Iron Man would be lead to believe by your elusive writing that Tony Stark, the True Iron Man, was beaten by Spiderman when in fact it was actually Arno who found an old Iron Man armor that was beaten. Write the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth.

Originally posted by who?-kid

Yes I can. It's the closest thing we've got. Too bad you don't like it. [/B]

Correction, It's the closet thing you have. There are tons of counter examples to dispprove what you said. You have to read more than just one issue to get a better understanding of a character in order to make a judgement.

Originally posted by Evangel94
You clearly do not state Iron Man 2020 or Arno anywhere here. People who are unfamiliar with the history of Iron Man would be lead to believe by your elusive writing that Tony Stark, the True Iron Man, was beaten by Spiderman when in fact it was actually Arno who found an old Iron Man armor that was beaten. Write the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth.

Read the thread, the whole thread and nothing but the thread. Everybody seems to know that that wasn't Tony Stark but you feel obligated to point it out for us once more.
Correction, It's the closet thing you have. There are tons of counter examples to dispprove what you said.

Eurm, I have a question for you : are you going to contribute to this debate by actually saying how Iron Man will beat Spider-Man, or are you going to complain some more?

I haven't read much "counter examples" coming from you 😆 !

iron man has lock on features.... something spidy WONT be able to dodge. As i have said before, I hate iron man/war machine, but they win this one.

If it's not _____seeking, he can still dodge it. Even if it tries to compensate for movement, he could go random.

sure, he might be able to dodge one or two seekers, but what if ironman releases mutiple? Spidey soup...

Originally posted by who?-kid
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I hope I don't sound as some biased fanboy (which I am, by the way ), but Spider-Man can hurt Iron Man. He can web him up very fast and throw him a few times against a building. Or under a passing train. Or use him a few minutes as a punching bag.

LOL are you seriouse Iron Man would be able to break out of his webing like its nothin, I mean Venom can do it and he is nowhere near Iron Mans stregth level. Iron Man has this one Spider man is out of his league.

Originally posted by emraldguardian
LOL are you seriouse Iron Man would be able to break out of his webing like its nothin, I mean Venom can do it and he is nowhere near Iron Mans stregth level. Iron Man has this one Spider man is out of his league.

Wrong. If Spider-Man decides to cover Iron-Man completely with web, hah, in that case, we'll have a humiliating story for Iron Man. The web itself won't give Iron Man that much trouble, but it's sticky as hell, and it will cost Iron Man a few seconds to get rid of it. Spider-Man did the same thing once against an enraged Hulk, and it bought him precious time.

And when fighting against Spider-Man, every second counts. That's why I believe Spider-Man has a good chance beating Iron Man.

Btw, Venom can not break the web of Spider-Man. Not even Namor can break his web, and Namor is sooo much stronger than Venom.

Originally posted by Kontraz
sure, he might be able to dodge one or two seekers, but what if ironman releases mutiple?

Hobgoblin tried something like that once, some computer driven series of attacks and stuff like that : now guess who was in for a surprise (hint, it was not Spider-Man)...

Under normal conditions, Spider-Man dodges every attack of Iron Man. He is just too fast for him. And don't tell me Iron Man has the artillery of a small army in his armor, or that he has infinite ammunition, because Iron Man will soon have nothing to fire anymore.

In most Iron Man comics I've read, there's always some problem : oh no, my suit is getting damaged, damn I'm low on energy, hey my repulsor beams don't work anymore, shit I'm out of ammo, oops a problem with my boot jets...

spider-man CANNOT dodge all of those missiles. Hell, whenever carnage fires off his spike deals, spidey usually takes MASSIVE damage. I think seeker missiles would do him in rather easily.

Originally posted by Kontraz
spider-man CANNOT dodge all of those missiles. Hell, whenever carnage fires off his spike deals, spidey usually takes MASSIVE damage. I think seeker missiles would do him in rather easily.

Carnage doesn't set off his spider-sense (most of times, though I have seen it the other way, but normally, he doesn't), so that doesn't count.

Against Iron Man, Spider-Man will have full access to his spider-sense.

his spider-sense alerts him to something comming, but it doesn't allow him to dodge it with more ease. How many times have ween seen spidey stand there and realize "my spider-sense is tingling" right before getting pummelled through a wall?

And besides the spider-sense doesn't increase his speed and agility in the least. He cannot dodge ALL of the missiles, and it would only take one connecting (or even exploding near him) to cause him to stall long enough of iron man to take him down the rest of the way.

Originally posted by Kontraz
his spider-sense alerts him to something comming, but it doesn't allow him to dodge it with more ease.

Oh yes it does. It's more easy to dodge something you know (or feel) is coming.
How many times have ween seen spidey stand there and realize "my spider-sense is tingling" right before getting pummelled through a wall?

Sure, but then again : how many times have we seen Spider-Man walking through death-traps like it's nothing, every reaction of his based on his spider-sense ?
And besides the spider-sense doesn't increase his speed and agility in the least. He cannot dodge ALL of the missiles, and it would only take one connecting (or even exploding near him) to cause him to stall long enough of iron man to take him down the rest of the way.

I really don't see why he can't dodge every missile. The combination of his jumping ability, experience, spider-sense, agility and speed makes him a master-dodger ! He's famous for dodging, and has dodged more computer driven laser beams aiming at him (lots faster than rockets) than I can remember.

I don't say he will have it easy, far from it, but under normal conditions he dodges everything Iron Man fires at him. He has avoided sooooo much more bullets, laser beams, rockets, grenades, you name it than he actually has been hit by those.

Iron Man wins. C'mon, this is getting old. Iron Man wins. Geez people.

Spiderman has the spider sense, so he can dodge basically any blast iron man gives him..Iron Man is just some guy in a robot suit, if his machine get's messed up, he's gone...I remember for the season finale of Spiderman iron man almost got a heart attack and his suit was messed up. All Spidey has to do is mess up his machine (and Parker is definitly smart enough to figure out how).

vitaldragon

Spiderman has the spider sense, so he can dodge basically any blast iron man gives him..Iron Man is just some guy in a robot suit, if his machine get's messed up, he's gone...I remember for the season finale of Spiderman iron man almost got a heart attack and his suit was messed up. All Spidey has to do is mess up his machine (and Parker is definitly smart enough to figure out how).

C'mon junior, Iron Man's armor was written damaged because otherwise he would've easily handled Skull, Smythe, and Octavious' ass all at once. That whole thing was all about Spidey and a lesson on leadership since he was going to led a team of Spidermen to save all realities.

Iron Man was the most power hero/individual there, followed by Storm. And Storm could have called forth a tornado to pick up those Cyberskulls that were attack the rebels.

In Iron Man's first appearence on that show, he and Venom were battling Mordo and Carnage with Dormammu later released then entered the battle as well. IM could've shut down the machine himself, but who then would be fighting both Mordo and Dormammu.

Even going by the cartoon version Spidey would get his ass beaten down. In the comics, IM also wins.

Originally posted by Beyonder
C'mon junior, Iron Man's armor was written damaged because otherwise he would've easily handled Skull, Smythe, and Octavious' ass all at once. That whole thing was all about Spidey and a lesson on leadership since he was going to led a team of Spidermen to save all realities.

Iron Man was the most power hero/individual there, followed by Storm. And Storm could have called forth a tornado to pick up those Cyberskulls that were attack the rebels.

In Iron Man's first appearence on that show, he and Venom were battling Mordo and Carnage with Dormammu later released then entered the battle as well. IM could've shut down the machine himself, but who then would be fighting both Mordo and Dormammu.

Even going by the cartoon version Spidey would get his ass beaten down. In the comics, IM also wins.


Come on all Spidey has to do is mess with his robot suit and once it malfunctions all Iron Man's power is gone. Spiderman is the one with real powers, Iron man just uses a robot suit.

This is kind off-topic, but in that season finale, why didn't they put daredevil in instead of Captain America...it would've been waay cooler.

vitaldragon

Come on all Spidey has to do is mess with his robot suit and once it malfunctions all Iron Man's power is gone. Spiderman is the one with real powers, Iron man just uses a robot suit.

This is kind off-topic, but in that season finale, why didn't they put daredevil in instead of Captain America...it would've been waay cooler.

Then you really don't know Iron Man then. He's just not some guy in a robot suit. The guy is Class 85 meaning he can lift 85 tons. His enemies are guys like Fing Fang Foom, Crimson Dynamo, and Mandarin. Any of these guys would walk all over Octavious, Lizard, Green Goblin, Carnage, or Venom.

The didn't use Dare Devil 'cause he really isn't Skull's arch enemy. Spidey wanted someone who's the opposite of Skull - and Cap was the man for the job.