The Fans Vs Hollywood

So Kingpin was black in the movie? Given Kingpin's origin and background, it really doesn't matter what color he is. He grew up a poor boy in the Bronx, he's just as likely to be white as he is black.

The reason most Marvel Comics characters are white is because they were created in the 1960's by white guys in a very segregated society. Either that or they were retconned 40's characters that were all apple pie red-blooded blond haired blue eyed white guys. The insurgance of black characters happened in the 70's because of the Blaxploitation craze. As a result, characters like Luke Cage, Falcon, Living Lightening, Black Goliath etc. were mostly black characters written by inept white guys trying to make a quick buck. The first respectable black character (IMO) was Black Panther, introduced by Jack Kirby in the 60's. They waited 10 years before giving him his own title, which was largly campy (although it can be argued most comics were in those days), but wasn't as Blaxploitive. Most black characters didn't hit any sort of respectable stride until the 80's and 90's.

Does it matter if Kingpin is black? No it doesn't since New York is such a messed up melting pot of ethnicities, it would be just as likely for him to be a poor white boy, or a poor african american boy.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
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Forget Daredevil I just got done arguing about that for two days how about Batman, Fantastic Four, and Hulk.

Fantastic Four movie will probably suck. I like the comics, but I have this feeling the movie will turn out to be an uninspired weekend film.

But let's hope I"m wrong. It's way too early to decide.

Even if they had the perfect cast and good director FF would still fail because of lack of big budget. So I'm 100 percent sure it will suck and it hurts me to say that because I love the characters so much. sadwalk

you cant be 100 percent sure, who knows?? Maybe it might shock us and become a good film??

I don't think the budget is that big a factor. Don't forget the actors are not on the A-list of Hollywood, so no big parts of the budget will go to a few overpaid actors.

I'm hoping it will at least be okay. I don't want to see them as a super-hero group, but more as "imaginauts".

If The Fantastic Four turns out to be a good film then I'll just have a heart attack blowup

Anyone think Ghost Rider will be any good with Nicholas Cage? furious

No, because I don't like Nicolas Cage and I'm not too fond of Ghostrider 😛.

What about Iron Man with Tom Cruise rumored to star?

Could be worse, Tom Cruise is a good actor.

How do you think they will try to make the Iron Man suit look?

I have absolutely no idea.

itll be interesting too see the development of the suit

A while back they said that they wanted to change it because they didn't want him to look like a giant academy award.

I don't want him to look like a giant academy award either. So if they change it but make it great then it doesn't bother me.

-AC

Maybe they can put War Machine in the movie too.

man you cant really blame hollywood for the shit of comic book movies. I mean about 80% of all comic books movies have been made by anti-hollywood directors, or fresh young upcomming directors. Because of the success of superman and batman, hollywood has always been enthusiastic about briging diretors with there own vision to the table. I am comming to this conclusion from numerous directors comments. Raimi said it best, He said the studio's told me they hired me because i had cult status with previous films. he said when it comes to movies with and underground or cult following, holloywood likes to open there wings of style and ingenuity. Now i think when hollywood does impose there presence ona comic film then there is no way it is going to have a chance, like batman and robin, this was a script written by hollywood writers. For the most part if a comic movie blows, it blows on it's own, and because of the people involved, not because of hollywood