Originally posted by who?-kid
Aw come on, cut the crap, will you ? I didn't know Batman was an infallible mind-reader who knows everybodies weakness just by looking at them.
BATMAN IS NOT!!!!HE STUDIES PEOPLE ALL.NIGHT.LONG IN THE FREAKING BATCAVE!!!!!!!!!HE WORKS REAL HARD TO GET WHERE HE IS!!!!!!!!! 😠 AND HE WILL KNOW WLOVERINE WEAKNESS!!!!!!!THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TIME WHEN HE HASN'T!!!!!!!!!!
1. There's a big difference between knowing a weakness and using this knowledge.
2. Even if Batman was able to use his weakness against him, it's still no guarantee to win a fight.
2. What kind of weaknesses are we talking about ? Wolverine has no special weaknesses. Yeah, sure, he's a little bit more vulnerable to sounds than normal people, because he has these super ears - wait, don't tell me, Batman will find this out (duh), will construct a sonic weapon (duh), will use it against Wolverine who is of course too stupid to realize he's in danger (duh) and this weapon will work perfectly and put an end to Wolvies misery (duh).
I didn't know it was this simple 😱.
Who?-Kid, are you going to tell me that you don't know how batman works.
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I'm not sure I follow you on this one. Unless you're saying - I hope not - that Batman will construct some kind of magnetic device (you know, Wolverine => iron). That would be... funny to read. Not interesting, just funny.
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My friend what are you saying? You are talking and contradicting yourself, magnets attracts iron (you know wolverines claws are iron). how do you think magneto stops wolverine? it is because he magnetizes the iron in wolverines body and any strong magnet will do. (have you ever seen the ones in the car grave yards, they are huge and powerful) Batman doen't need to create a portable magnet device because he can go to any car grave yards and find one. And set a trap.
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Too stupid to dignify with an answer.
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Too stupid you say... because you know Batman has the resources to do it.
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Logic ? Hahahaha (ahem). So, you're saying : Punisher beat Wolverine, so Batman can beat Wolverine also ? That's... logic ? Newsflash : Batman is not Punisher (thank God) and it's not because Punisher beat him once, he can do it twice...
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Aw come on, cut the crap, will you ? I didn't know Batman was an infallible mind-reader who knows everybodies weakness just by looking at them.
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I did not say that batman was an infallible mind reader, who knows everybodies weakness just by looking at them. I get where you are going with this. Sure batman is going to fumble in the first round but he has a nasty habit of escaping with his life. Come round two well you know what is going to happen. And don't write back telling me you don't know. because if you don't shame on you.
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2. What kind of weaknesses are we talking about ? Wolverine has no special weaknesses. Yeah, sure, he's a little bit more vulnerable to sounds than normal people, because he has these super ears - wait, don't tell me, Batman will find this out (duh), will construct a sonic weapon (duh), will use it against Wolverine who is of course too stupid to realize he's in danger (duh) and this weapon will work perfectly and put an end to Wolvies misery (duh).
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BOB a weakness is a weakness no matter how you look at it. plus it will be wise to keep it in the dark away from batman (the key word here is dark which comes with night, and batman is night. In order words he uses the cover of darkness to do his best work.
You are right when you say, knowing someone's weakness doesn't garantee victory. that is why he makes you wish you had never had this weakness in the first place.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
My friend what are you saying? You are talking and contradicting yourself.
magnets attracts iron (you know wolverines claws are iron). how do you think magneto stops wolverine? it is because he magnetizes the iron in wolverines body and any strong magnet will do. (have you ever seen the ones in the car grave yards, they are huge and powerful) Batman doen't need to create a portable magnet device because he can go to any car grave yards and find one. And set a trap.
Second, I don't buy the "Hey Wolverine, do you mind if you will stand still for a few seconds right there, yes there, maybe a little to the left, yes thanks a lot (activates magnet)" - theory. Sorry, but that's stupid.
Theoretically, no problem, I'll give you that. But theoretically, I can win the lottery every week.
Sure batman is going to fumble in the first round but he has a nasty habit of escaping with his life.
Of course he has. He's a major hero after all. Every hero has a nasty habit of escaping with his life.
Come round two well you know what is going to happen. And don't write back telling me you don't know. because if you don't shame on you.
I don't know what will happen, and neither do you. You THINK you know what will happen, but can you prove it ? Can you give me solid proof ? No. So please don't come with the "you know what will happen"-stuff."
a weakness is a weakness no matter how you look at it. plus it will be wise to keep it in the dark away from batman (the key word here is dark which comes with night, and batman is night. In order words he uses the cover of darkness to do his best work.
To conclude this little reply, I want to stress the fact that I really like Batman - believe it or not - and I certainly do not underestimate him. I know he can defeat Wolverine, but in a plain fight, he bites the dust. And when he faces Wolverine again for a rematch, he will bite the dust again, unless he has a clever plan. Batman is not strong enough to hurt Wolverine. Fact. Even without his claws, Wolverine would give Batman trouble, but with his claws... well, Batman loses.
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First of all, Batman is not Magneto, Magneto is much more powerful than Batman.
Second, I don't buy the "Hey Wolverine, do you mind if you will stand still for a few seconds right there, yes there, maybe a little to the left, yes thanks a lot (activates magnet)" - theory. Sorry, but that's stupid.
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HA HA HA very funny, I am not kidding because it put a smile on my face. Ok I don't see batman telling wolverine to stand on the big fat red x anyone could figure that it is a trap even wolverine. This is why batman always has a well thought out plan to exsecute, and plan B to match.
And I did not say that batman was magneto but can the magnets I mentioned work?. yes they can and that is why you did not want to talk about the car dunk yard magnets because they will get the job done. Batman is big on deception and this is no lie and this is why wolverine is going to fall in the trap.
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Of course he has. He's a major hero after all. Every hero has a nasty habit of escaping with his life.
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Of course but batman has perfected it why because he has to worry about surviving who ever he is fighting ask for your friend wolverine he goes in guns blazing never giving a second thought that he might get shot. Why because of his healing powers.
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I don't know what will happen, and neither do you. You THINK you know what will happen, but can you prove it ? Can you give me solid proof ? No. So please don't come with the "you know what will happen"-stuff."
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BOB the person who doesn't anything know here is you. I have proven and given you solid proof in advance (that is before this quote here, the one this passage is referering to) what is going to happen but you did not want to listen and you closed your eyes to the truth. Referer to the (HA HA HA very funny reply and this is the second encounter) and you will find your answer.
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Wolverines senses are much higher than that of a normal human being. He will hear and smell Batman long before Batman realizes this.
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Yes but wolverine senses are not that defferent from that of animals.Yes it might even be superior but the same rules apply. And even if he smells the air and discovers batman, Batman's goal would have been a success why because he just saw wolverine smelling the air and discovering him in the proccess. And I do not think he is going to hear batman either. because of traffic.
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To conclude this little reply, I want to stress the fact that I really like Batman - believe it or not - and I certainly do not underestimate him. I know he can defeat Wolverine, but in a plain fight, he bites the dust. And when he faces Wolverine again for a rematch, he will bite the dust again, unless he has a clever plan. Batman is not strong enough to hurt Wolverine. Fact. Even without his claws, Wolverine would give Batman trouble, but with his claws... well, Batman loses.
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Yes in a plain fight batman is going to loss but not without giving hell to wolverine. Your plain fight pits a human with a metta human (QUOTE FROM YOU, Even without his claws, Wolverine would give Batman trouble, but with his claws... well, Batman loses.) Note you did not say healing factor which means you are cheating in this plain fight. THis is a what if because you will never find wolverine going into battle without his claws or healing factor or batman going into battle without his utility belt or his brain. And a wolverine with claws and know healing factor losses any way why he just has a fancy weapon. And batman is strong enough to inflict damage.
You must have noticed how I call people "bob" it is because I really like Wolverine my self. You see when I like somebody I tend to want to know everything about that person. I respect you and all other in my writing there are know exceptions.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
HA HA HA very funny, I am not kidding because it put a smile on my face. Ok I don't see batman telling wolverine to stand on the big fat red x anyone could figure that it is a trap even wolverine. This is why batman always has a well thought out plan to exsecute, and plan B to match.
And I did not say that batman was magneto but can the magnets I mentioned work?. yes they can and that is why you did not want to talk about the car dunk yard magnets because they will get the job done. Batman is big on deception and this is no lie and this is why wolverine is going to fall in the trap.
And Wolverine certainly isn't as cunning as Batman (few people are) but he's far from stupid. He will sense a trap.
Of course but batman has perfected it why because he has to worry about surviving who ever he is fighting ask for your friend wolverine he goes in guns blazing never giving a second thought that he might get shot. Why because of his healing powers.
BOB the person who doesn't anything know here is you. I have proven and given you solid proof in advance (that is before this quote here, the one this passage is referering to) what is going to happen but you did not want to listen and you closed your eyes to the truth. Referer to the (HA HA HA very funny reply and this is the second encounter) and you will find your answer.
Yes but wolverine senses are not that defferent from that of animals.Yes it might even be superior but the same rules apply.
And even if he smells the air and discovers batman, Batman's goal would have been a success why because he just saw wolverine smelling the air and discovering him in the proccess. And I do not think he is going to hear batman either. because of traffic.
Yes in a plain fight batman is going to loss but not without giving hell to wolverine. Your plain fight pits a human with a metta human (QUOTE FROM YOU, Even without his claws, Wolverine would give Batman trouble, but with his claws... well, Batman loses.) Note you did not say healing factor which means you are cheating in this plain fight. THis is a what if because you will never find wolverine going into battle without his claws or healing factor or batman going into battle without his utility belt or his brain.And a wolverine with claws and know healing factor losses any way why he just has a fancy weapon. And batman is strong enough to inflict damage.
You must have noticed how I call people "bob" it is because I really like Wolverine my self. You see when I like somebody I tend to want to know everything about that person. I respect you and all other in my writing there are know exceptions.
But ! : mano a mano : Wolverine wins.
with a plan : Batman has a good chance to win.
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I know Batman, and he's truly great at coming up with good plans. But still, even the best plans or back-up plans can fail. Wolverine is a very dangerous man, so no errors can be made by Batman.
And Wolverine certainly isn't as cunning as Batman (few people are) but he's far from stupid. He will sense a trap.
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Yes you are correct in this analogy, that even the best plans can fail. And it has happened to batman countless times. And batman also knows to stay ahead of his opponent so as to give him space to breath. I think it was batman who said "In this line of work one sleap is to many" Meaning he takes the suitation very seriously wheather is a boy with a play knive or a father with his family. So batman will make errors but they will not cost him the match.
Yes and if wolverine is able to sence traps how do you explain all the other ones he has fallen into. Wolverine has fallen into more traps than batman.
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True, but this doesn't change the fact that Wolverine has this tremendous healing powers, powers for Batman to be dealt with. His claws, fighting experience (more than Batman), unbreakable skeleton, instinct, senses, healing factor... they are all a part of Wolverine. Fighting Wolverine is fighting his abilities.
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Need I remind you that batman sees your powers as weakness why because has found ways of going around them. And as you said fighting wolverine is fighting his abilities the same also applies for batman .
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Sorry, but that is not solid proof. Just a possible scenario
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BOB, this is no possible scenario it is fact. Batmans second battles always ends in a success and this one with wolverine will be no different. And besides batman has been using this rule with great success, and it applies to everyone, no one is excluded. Its been here longer than you have and here it is going to stay even if it is just a scenario to you.
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His senses are superior
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Wolverine's sences are superior but they are not invincible.
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No he isn't. Wolverine can take so much punishment, it's almost crazy. You can stab him, shoot him, fry him, electrocute him, punch and kick him (and break your hand and foot), but he still keeps coming (no fanboyism here, just facts). With his bare hands, Batman has no chance to hurt Wolverine with his healing factor and unbreakable skeleton. He will slow him down, that's for sure, but actually hurting him ? No.
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Yes wolverine can take allot more punishment than batman due to his healing factor. And without the healing factor all wolverine has is just a fancy weapon no more no less. And without it he is no match for batman. (Not to say he is one now) Batman is strong enough to hurt wolverine (you were probably day dreaming when you came up with this one.)
p.s To walk in darkness is to know light. 🙂
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Yes and if wolverine is able to sence traps how do you explain all the other ones he has fallen into. Wolverine has fallen into more traps than batman.
Need I remind you that batman sees your powers as weakness why because has found ways of going around them. And as you said fighting wolverine is fighting his abilities the same also applies for batman.
BOB, this is no possible scenario it is fact. Batmans second battles always ends in a success and this one with wolverine will be no different. And besides batman has been using this rule with great success, and it applies to everyone, no one is excluded. Its been here longer than you have and here it is going to stay even if it is just a scenario to you.
And besides, As long as the fight didn't happen, it's just a scenario.
Wolverine's sences are superior but they are not invincible.
Ok, you asked for it 🙂.
Some things Wolverine has, and Batman, well, hasn't =>
1. durability : I don't think many people will argue about this
2. unbreakable skeleton : same here
3. razor sharp claws which he likes to use, and uses like an expert
4. extremely sharp senses
5. very fast healing factor
Wolverine 5 points, Batman 0 points.
Now some things both men possess :
1. experience : and I even think Wolverine has much more experience than Batman has. Don't forget that he has been fighting all his life and he's three times as old as Batman ! This is not a detail !
2. strength : IF there's a difference, it won't be much. I think Wolverine can lift a few pounds extra because he doesn't have to worry about breaking his back, but again, it won't be a big difference.
3. speed : about the same for both heroes, I think
4. endurance : maaayybeee Wolverine, because of his mutant abilities and his healing factor, he doesn't tire as fast as Batman does
5. willpower : Batman never quits, never, and Wolverine doesn't know what the word means. He should get himself a dictionary.
Let's give them both 5 points.
What does Batman have ? Well :
1. gadget belt, batarangs... : sorry, won't do much damage. No points.
2. his brains : yes, definitely a point here for Batman
So, let's count the points : Wolverine 10, Batman 6.
I think we have a winner 😛.
what do mean by " but you need more than Batman has"?
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How can having a unbreakable skeleton and a very fast healing factor be possibly a weakness ?? Oh yeah, the "magnet-theory" .
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Yes you read my mind. Let me ask you this, If a Batman can create a ship that opens wormhole, that allow's a ship to travel as fast or maybe faster than the speed of light, can create a device that can instantly transport you to the future or past and to a different dimension. Do you really think creating a magnet is going to be rocket science? If you do, then I don't know what to say to that.
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So you're saying Batman is invincible the second time he fights somebody ? Hard to believe, very hard.
And besides, As long as the fight didn't happen, it's just a scenario.
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Batman is not invincible the first or second or even the third time, when he is fighting somebody. It is just that his plan's are full proved. And having a back up for his main plan has helped him never to be beaten twice.
BOB, this whole thread is a scenario, don't you see. But then again this second battle always win thing is no scenario. How do you think batman win's when he encounters someone new. It's not the first battle I assure you.
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Of course not, never said that. Wolverine is not invincible, and neither is Batman.
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BOB, if you review my reply's you will find out that I never said or stated that batman was invincible in anyway. But you on the other hand made it seem that wolverine was. With your references to his claws and healing factor, and superior senses.
P.S. To walk in darkness is to know light 😄
OK you started it.
Some things that do not mean any to batman
1.durability
2. unbreakable skeleton
3. razor sharp claws
4. extremely sharp senses (maybe a little trouble to batman)
5. very fast healing (this one too but his healing needs time does't it.)
Wolverine 5, Batman not caring
Now some things both men possess :
1. experience : and I even think Wolverine has much more experience than Batman has. Don't forget that he has been fighting all his life and he's three times as old as Batman ! This is not a detail !
True but how do you account for his amnesia trying to remember. Because of this minor detail experience goes to batman.
2.You are correct on your number 2.
3. speed : about the same for both heroes. I do not think speed is the same simply because of his claws they should slow him down so speed goes to batman.
4. endurance : Yes on your number 4 but his healing factor takes time to heal because if the damage is constantly being inflicted then the healing won't start.
5. willpower : VERY FUNNY your number 5 put a smile on my face. This one is almost the same between a person who never quits and a person you doesn't know the meaning the meaning of the word.
Let's give wolverine 3 and batman 2 points.
What does Batman have ? Let's see :
1. gadget belt, batarangs and a whole load of weaponry. SO 3 points
2. his brains counts for most of his victory one point doesn't do justice: so, 4 point here for Batman
So, let's count the points : Wolverine 8, Batman 9.
I think we have a winner 💃
P.S. To walk in darkness is to know light