The only changes I would make to "Manga-Venom" would be to make him leaner and to make his arms more proportionate (at least in that picture, it looks like he has massive biceps and shoulders but rather short arms and small hands).
Honestly, I'd like a Gollum-Venom (LOL) but with more musculature. I dunno, maybe it's because I have an extreme dislike for my own hands (I have rather stubby fingers and I really want someone to develop some form of plastic surgery to make them longer).
Damn right. You can't help but like it when you start to read the books. Not my fave at first, but I find the new version straight sexy now. But the many versions of the character is one of the things I find most appealing. I've never seen a character drawn with so many variations from artist to artist--all the different takes and slants really helps keep him from gettin' to stale.
Ugh, I can't stand that grotesquely huge disproportioned Venom with the Spider symbol that actually looks like an attachment, as opposed to part of the symbiote itself. This may sound like total blasphemy on my part, but quite frankly, the Venom series was a slap in the face. It was horribly scripted, and the vertigo-inducing art didn't help it. I only bought like four issues, and they all left me slapping my head and saying "Sweet Zombie Jesus man!" I miss Mark Bagley. If there was one man who really knew how to draw Venom, it was him.
Those wouldn't happen to be any of the first two arcs, would they? You shouldn't have stopped reading it. You don't even know what you're missing. I almost gave up on #10--it was irritating me 'cuz it just seemes to go in circles, and I knew it tied into SSM #s 1-5, but I couldn't see how, and I couldn't figure out why they were trying to keep us off-balance. So, of course you know that the Venom you were reading about was not even the original? Sure, you do. The story was just that bad, right? You hated the nano-spiders, the S.H.I.E.L.D., Nick Fury, FF and Spidey tie-ins? And of course, you had the clones all figured out, so you just never had to read the books, huh? So, maybe you can spare me the trouble of reading the last 2 books, and just tell me how it ends. Does the clone live, does Patricia live, and do the cells of female clones destroy the Venom clone and the "bobs"?
I like Bagley's Venom, too, but this story friggen owns. Seriously. And I have created a couple dozen fans who now feel the same way I do about it. Are we morons, or we're just so easily negotiable, right? Or maybe, just maybe, you gave up on a story because you didn't like the pictures. I was pissed off about the first 10 issues--I thought the series was a wash, and then I said, I'm gonna give it one more chance, but I swaer to God, if there's no Eddie Brock in #11, I'm out. I got my wish, and then I hung in there.
Seriously, when I buy comics, I'm normally more interested in the artwork not the story. I could usually care less about the story if the art is good, but unfortunately neither complimented the other at all, so I was pretty quickly disenfranchised. Don't get me wrong, there were some parts I enjoyed-The whole fact that the new Venom was actually a clone, (even though I had figured that much out almost immediately after reading the third or fourth issue). Good concept, I'll give them that much. The execution on the other hand had me scratching my head. I think it's cool that people like the series and all, at the very least it proves to Marvel that the whole Venom franchise is still a money maker. I just felt that the artwork was really misplaced, and I wasn't about to lay down another 4.25 just so I could buy another book with artwork I felt was gut-wrenchingly bad.
Originally posted by Koto K
Seriously, when I buy comics, I'm normally more interested in the artwork not the story. I could usually care less about the story if the art is good, but unfortunately neither complimented the other at all, so I was pretty quickly disenfranchised. Don't get me wrong, there were some parts I enjoyed-The whole fact that the new Venom was actually a clone, (even though I had figured that much out almost immediately after reading the third or fourth issue). Good concept, I'll give them that much. The execution on the other hand had me scratching my head. I think it's cool that people like the series and all, at the very least it proves to Marvel that the whole Venom franchise is still a money maker. I just felt that the artwork was really misplaced, and I wasn't about to lay down another 4.25 just so I could buy another book with artwork I felt was gut-wrenchingly bad.
OK, I can respect all that. I also select some books by the art, but I will buy books or series whose art I don't particularly like. In fact, I have many series' whose story I love, but the art is flat, or just plain ugly to me.
I didn't realize that you were Canadian also--and I can't blame you for not wanting to spend more than 4 bucks on a book you don't even enjoy looking at.
And as far as Venom being a money-making machine, I don't know about all that, but I do know that Venom fans tend to be as loyal as any you'll find out there. There aren't too many of us out there (especially women and girls), but our minions are growing rapidly.
Originally posted by Koto K
Ugh, I can't stand that grotesquely huge disproportioned Venom with the Spider symbol that actually looks like an attachment, as opposed to part of the symbiote itself. This may sound like total blasphemy on my part, but quite frankly, the Venom series was a slap in the face. It was horribly scripted, and the vertigo-inducing art didn't help it. I only bought like four issues, and they all left me slapping my head and saying "Sweet Zombie Jesus man!" I miss Mark Bagley. If there was one man who really knew how to draw Venom, it was him.
completely agreed , bagley is the man on spiderman comics, along with john romitah and his son john romita jr.
luckly hes the one behind ultimate series, unfortuneltely the changin of editor (again ,i think its the 9th time spidey changes editor in my country) made the comics too expensive to buy