Originally posted by Batarangs Blade
And what did Nightcrawler do, eh? Nightcrawler did, too, since Mutant powers emerge during adolesence. He was in the Circus before AND while he had his powers. For most of his LIFE he was training to use his speed and agility to it's highest potential. And what do you call his fighting style? Did he steal that from someone else? No. He created his own, just like Spiderman did.Again, what about Nightcrawler? His body is greatly strengthened, too. He can stick to walls, just like Spidey, and do acrobatics, too, probably BETTER, since, y'know, that's the kind of stuff they do in the Circus, not in High School.
Obviously Spiderman's body was genetically changed by the spider bite, but Nightcrawler's body was naturally changed by his mutant power, when he became a mutant. Nightcrawler can match everything Spidey's got, and can probably do a better job with most of the agility stuff, too.
Nightcrawler is different in that he didn't get his powers in adolescence, he was actually born that way, thanks to Mystique and his father, whoever that is. The original intent was to make Nightcrawler a demon that never could return to hell, but that didn't work out, so they just made him a mutant, and the rest should be fairly well known....joined circus young...then joined Xmen...yadda yadda yadda...
As I understood it, Azazel was supposed to just be a mutant from thousands of years ago. Earlier in the Draco arc, Havok with an old archaeology professor find on an island remnants of an old civilization, before anything else ever found and pictures of "mutants" resembling demons (Nightcrawler-ish) and angels are found on walls.
Azazel goes onto explain he was bannished to a hell like dimension by ancient angel looking Mutants from long ago, and the dimension staved off any aging. He would leave in hour long incriments or something like that to seduce women and hopefully sire an army of teleporters to use their power to get him out of his dimension. A storyline featuring biblical mutants could have been done well, and explained a good many details, but this came out as tripe. Although it did answer a question raised in Ultimate X-Men "of all things why do mutants look like angels and demons". Because the original descriptions of angels and demons are based off of old mutants. The direction Austen took it was...not exactly good, and I think that having genetic mutation happen randomly thousands of years ago needs an explanation. The current mutants are described as the result of humankind's nuclear tests unleashing the genetic seeds planted in humankind by the Celestials long long ago. We have seen random unexplained mutations happen before. Apoc and Wolverine are of course many years older than the others, but to have more than a couple in a concentrated area thousands of years before nuclear activity stretches it, IMO.
Originally posted by wuTa
wheres nightwing?....he's more agile than toad....and he;s definelty more agile than sabertooth or wolverine
hes DEFINITELY not more agile than Toad. and Sabretooth and Wolverine are above him because they have an animalistic agility, which is far superior to Nightwing's.
Originally posted by Mane
umm, no?hes DEFINITELY not more agile than Toad. and Sabretooth and Wolverine are above him because they have an animalistic agility, which is far superior to Nightwing's.
maybe maaaybe toad is more agile but there aint no way that sabertooth or wolverine is more agile....nightwing is very similar to nightcrawler...both have been acrobats all there life...both grew up in the circus.....sabertooth and woleverine might be able to jump further than nightwing but that dont make them more agile....i've never seem them scale down a builing with handstands or backflips....and i bet they can scale a tightrope using there hands....when nightwing was robin he was famous for doing a triple saumersault in the air with no platform...i;ve never seen wolverine or sabertooth do a single saumersault without some sort if platform....in fact i dont ever recall them doing one WITH a platform
We forgot the wildly obscure Ricochet from the Slingers! A young mutant, Johnny Gallo who has a precognitive danger sense and "hyperagility" He definatly goes up there with Spider-Man, as he did take over Parker's Ricochet persona (which was the one that centralized his agility, whereas Prodigy was strength, Dusk could be argued as stealth and darkness, Hornet as techiness and strength)
Agile- Marked by ready ability to move with quick easy grace.
Spider-man launches himself about at ridiculous speeds, and is graceful, but he is no nightcrawler. Spider-man is by far FASTER, but that isnt AGILITY.
Nightcrawler is quadrodexterous (Can use all four 'hands'😉, has a tail to balance himself like a cat and chance his body position mid-air, has a specially designed body structure.
Beast is more agile then Spidey.
Spiderman is strong and fast, and he can dodge shit very well, but he isnt as agile as a lot of characters who are all smooth and magicly delicious.