Canadian Superheroes

ScarletSpider

Militarily we are the foremost authority. Economically, we depend a lot on outside producers. When was the last time you bought anything with "Made In USA" on it? If they just quit sending stuff to us, we'd be in trouble with our economy.

Regarding economics, I disagree. It's not that we can't produce things but that other countries make things CHEAPER. That's why most jobs are being sent over seas, labor overseas is much cheap.

For instance: Nike
In 1974, a pair of Nike shoes cost $2.50 to make in America. It only cost $29.95.

Currently, a pair of Nike shoes cost $ .20 to be made in China. It now cost $80 - $100.

Nike and many other companies establish factories over seas for cheap labor and export these products back to America. Thus this is why you find products with mostly foreign names as the origin of production. Furthermore, America allows many countries to import their goods here. American consumers really don't care where it comes from as long as it's what we like and that it's cheap we'll buy it. Look at Japan, people there try to buy mostly Japanese made products to keep their money in Japan as oppose to foreign country. They even try to limit the amount of foreign goods imported, choosing to promote Japanese goods instead. Most other countries do this as well, it just that we Americans really don't care where it comes from.

If we were to limit this intake of import and ban any company (such as Nike) from selling their products in America unless the made their products in America (providing jobs for the American people), then America wouldn't even be matched. However, companies like Nike and also foreign countries pay American lobbyists to fight against any law/ban of such a thing. Ironically, you can't say the same about other countries. Try paying a lobbyist of another country to go to their government and lobby for any laws and you'll get nowhere. Only in America can a foreign country, company, etc. play in the political arena and try at their chance to get at changing anything.

nike sucks

Alpha Centauri

"it's the ideals of America that I love."

Hahahaha. Possibly the most hilarious comment ever.

Bill Hicks said it best when he said America spent so many years trying to trick people into believing there were all these evil forces out there but when it came right down to it, America was and is the biggest evil force there is.

Let's not go calling America the greatest country Beyonder. Let's actually be realistic and look at the country itself. A country that over the past years has been more of a backstabber and liar than any other. Saying that it's the greatest country overall is stupid.

"Currently, we are the greatest nation in the world."

Tell that to the people who lost husbands, dads, sons, brothers, cousins and nephews in your "greatest nation's" wild goose chase of a fake war on "terror". See how they feel about calling your country with it's overbearing, war-hungry, immoral nature and it's insane bloodlusting leaders, the greatest nation in the world. The land of the free where you're so free that you don't get a choice in whether you want to go fight in a war or not. A nation that so badly wants to be the protector of the world yet continually makes it worse by feeding it's money hungry belly by selling weapons to other nations that are meagre and hundreds of thousands of miles away, that can't actually hurt them at all and then convincing you how evil they are because they own those weapons. A nation who's leader was running around making back alley treaties and deals with the so-called enemy, flying them around the states in first class in return for certains things, days before the tragic Twin Towers events, then had the gaul to put personal gain before the protection of thousands of innocent people.

Greatest nation? America alone is the closest thing to Hell on Earth you can possibly get.

When your own national anthem starts becoming a contradiction, greatest nation claims go out the window.

WTF? So your blaming America itself because an individual or small group of people made false claims. If everyone knew that the intellengence was false, the ENTIRE nation would have not allowed a war. If you were to ask people before America went to war with Iraq whether or not Iraq had nukes, I'll bet you the majority would say mostlikely yes. Before the war, no one new 100% that Saddam didn't have nukes; now we know for sure that he doesn't. Don't slander us and point to casualties of war because if the people knew then we won't have gone to war in the first place. And people die in wars, look at all the casualties of Germans, Japanese, Italians, etc in WWII. They were the aggressors but it doesn't mean that their citizens deserved what they did.

As for America being the closest thing to Hell on Earth, then I guess we're not so bad because we did spend billions of dollars working to rebuild most of Europe and Japan after the war. Europe and Japan were both somewhat (not all) imperialist before the war but look at them now. Japan, Germany, Italy, etc. are among the richest countries in the world, operating in a democratic system (modeled after the U.S./Hell on Earth as you call it). Japanese were still living in wooden houses during the WWII, but the reconstruction took them into more modern structures with that of the modern world.

Take a look at North and South Korea. North Korea is in shambles economically, one of the most impoverish nation in the world due to their system of communism. South Korea (still guarded at the 38th parallel by American troops from North Korea) is a wealthy nation that was assisted by America.

Don't mock me about this when you yourself don't know shit about this.

i thought there was a ban on political threads.

"If everyone knew that the intellengence was false, the ENTIRE nation would have not allowed a war. If you were to ask people before America went to war with Iraq whether or not Iraq had nukes, I'll bet you the majority would say mostlikely yes. Before the war, no one new 100% that Saddam didn't have nukes; now we know for sure that he doesn't. Don't slander us and point to casualties of war because if the people knew then we won't have gone to war in the first place."

A) If everyone was unsure then they should have opened their eyes and learned before opening their mouthes and being all gung-ho about taking out someone who they were just being told was a threat.

B) No one knew for sure Saddam didn't have nukes. No one knew for sure that he did, but they went ahead anyway with believing it and going in there. Chances are the powers that be knew he didn't, but the public of America as always in these situations, needed so little reason to give their approval. Only until now are people seeing it was bullshit. Call me crazy but I think it's too late. Yeah Saddam is out of power but at what cost?

America helped rebuild, yeah. But at the price of getting what they want, when they want it, from every country they help. Coz America is a no gain, no give country.

You're an admitted patriot, so before you claim I don't know anything, take a look at the country you're protecting.

-AC

Why did this become political in nature? We're talking about Canadian superheroes, not which country is better.

Someone had to compare Canada to U.S. in terms of real world politics and issues. And I had to rant. And it goes downhill from there.

^ Well, that answers my question...

Allow me to end this pointless discussion by saying this:

Though Canada is not as powerful as the United States, both countries have their pros and cons, often similar in nature, and so are equally suitable to live in. Neither one has "something" that makes it or its citizens better or worse than the other's.

THE END. No more responses about "such-and-such did this", "but this particular country has a better history", or anything along the lines that could be construed as an inflammatory comment in the realm of politics, real-world issues, or members of the board.

i think Captain Canada is the best Canadian Superhero

The thing is the USA waged war on terrorism/Iraq because there was a minor chance that they were in possesion of nuclear bombs or chemical weapons. So using the same logic the US used should the world go to war with them because as u say beyonder "they have the most nuces in the world." Screw that lets just have a world war to try and get rid of every country with them.

Because the way i see it is America is just as likely, if not more in my opinion do use nuces on any country. I mean at the end of the day what country is gonna stand up to the US? Maybe if it was Russia but any other country's pretty much dun for if America decides they dont like em.

Im not realy gifted at the whole speaking stuff and my knowledge is limited as im 14yrs old 😉 But thats my take on it.

Hey, Magee?

STFU.

alright anyway uh i like the alpha flight dudes

Alpha Centauri

A) If everyone was unsure then they should have opened their eyes and learned before opening their mouthes and being all gung-ho about taking out someone who they were just being told was a threat.

1] What do you mean opened their eyes? The United Nations' weapons inspectors were lead in circles by Saddam. Inspectors were always held for a time before they could inspect the factories or any where they wanted to inspect - this isn't how weapons inspection works. Some inspections at certain facilities were not even allowed. This went on for about 10 YEARS. Damn, weapons inspection went on again BEFORE any attack started. If Saddam cooperated fully with *U.N.* weapons inspectors than there would be NO WAR. He agreed and then in March 2003 he didn't complied with some of the demands - trying to lead the inspectors in circles again/not fully cooperating. Bush was tired of this - ten years of this, even when given a chance to redeem himself (Saddam) - and so the war began. THERE WAS NO GUNG-HO ANYTHING!

B) No one knew for sure Saddam didn't have nukes. No one knew for sure that he did, but they went ahead anyway with believing it and going in there. Chances are the powers that be knew he didn't, but the public of America as always in these situations, needed so little reason to give their approval. Only until now are people seeing it was bullshit. Call me crazy but I think it's too late. Yeah Saddam is out of power but at what cost?

Chances are? So little reason?
- Little reasons like Saddam's uncooperation with U.N. weapons inspector for 10 YEARS!?
- Little reasons like the fact that he hated America & wanted nukes to threaten us & his neighboring countries?
- Little reason's like invading Kuwait (neighboring country) & like using chemical weapons (like Sarine Gas) on HIS OWN people (different ethnic groups)?
- Little reasons like the chemical weapons he used on the Iranian people (neighboring country) during the Iran/Iraq War?
- Little reasons like the fact that he's a tyrant - cruel to his own people and a threat to the international community?

America helped rebuild, yeah. But at the price of getting what they want, when they want it, from every country they help. Coz America is a no gain, no give country.

At what price? Try $100 BILLION U.S. TAX PAYER MONEY just for starters: that's the amount currently for rebuilding Iraq. And even more moneys needed later.

No give? Where were the Europeans when there was genocide of the Muslim population by the Serbs (Christian) in the Balkins/Bosnia in 1999? Did these rich countries even lifted a finger to help their neighbors, their fellow humans? WHERE THE HELL WERE THEY!?

America - from across the FREAKEN ATLANTIC - was the country that intervened - thus stopping the massacre from continuing. And what did we - the United States of America - gain from the Balkins? Oil? Gold? Valuable resources? NADA! That's what we got. There wasn't anything valuable to gain - we went their with the intent to STOP THE GENOCIDE OF ONE GROUP BY ANOTHER! Again, where were the rich Europeans when this happened - those o so great Europeans. Those Europeans who America saved during WWI & WWII and now are criticizing America for wanting to protect itself from global threats.

You're an admitted patriot, so before you claim I don't know anything, take a look at the country you're protecting.

I did. It's not perfect (no country is), but it's still the best country in the world. And before you try to say anything else, America went to war against the government of Iraq & Saddam, not it's citizens. Yes there's thousands of Iraqi's dead, but you think Saddam was a merciful leader? This guy killed hundred thousands of his people through genocide & stole billions of oil revenue from the country, Iraq was worse under Saddam.
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Magee

The thing is the USA waged war on terrorism/Iraq because there was a minor chance that they were in possesion of nuclear bombs or chemical weapons. So using the same logic the US used should the world go to war with them because as u say beyonder "they have the most nuces in the world." Screw that lets just have a world war to try and get rid of every country with them.

Russia, China, Great Britain, France, India, Pakastan, Israel all have nukes. Do you see America going after any of them just cause they have them? Why? Because they pose no threat to other countries.

North Korea & possibly Iran have them. America's going after them if possible 'cause they're radical and would use them. Hell, North Korea launched a missile (not containing nuke warhead) over Japan just to show Japan and the world that they can hit Japan & isn't affraid to use it. North Korea hates the United States and has threaten its neighbor South Korea.

Because the way i see it is America is just as likely, if not more in my opinion do use nuces on any country. I mean at the end of the day what country is gonna stand up to the US? Maybe if it was Russia but any other country's pretty much dun for if America decides they dont like em.

There's a handful of countries that have nukes, but we DON'T go around bullying other countries, threatening them with nukes if we don't get what we want. These countries are the RESPONSIBLES, countries like North Korea or Iraq (if they had it) aren't.

i cant wait until VENOMfan closes this thread (if he does)

Manowar

i cant wait until VENOMfan closes this thread (if he does)

...is it 'cause I'm winning? 😄 I don't get into political debates that much - but this is an exception. And yes I do know this is a forum for comics, but sometimes things need to be said. 😉

Shut. The. ****. Up. Stop arguing. Personally, I love debating things, especially politics, but this really needs to stop before the thread IS closed.

ok manowar if u want this thread closed then don't talk in it and ya the alpha flight is awesome my favourite in the alpha flight is guardian and northstar

Alpha Flight was dope back in the day. I'll never forget Guardian's death scene...the panels drawn in the shape of numbers, counting down the time to his death. And then his wife (Vindicator) walks in and they make eye contact just as he's about to die. That was so harsh. Even as beastly little pre-teen I understood the pain of that scene.

Greatest Canadian superhero? GEDDY LEE!!!!!!!

athf is awesome