Huge Flaw in LOTR (The Books)

OK! In the book, The Hobbit, when Bilbo was traveling, Gandalf left them to go into Mirkwood Forest alone and you didn't yet know why. Well, later on in the book, Gandalf comes back and said that him and the White Coucil had gone to another part of Mirkwood to chase off The Necromancer. The book later revealed that the Necromancer was actually Sauron himself, and he was banned to Mordor.

NOW this all happen probably around 100 years before Frodo was born. So in the LOTR Trilogy, you find out that around 1000 years before Frodo's journey, Isildur cut the Ring from Sauron's hand, therefore making him a Spirit and no longer a physical being.

Now i make my point:
HOW could Sauron be reduced to a Spirit, therefore having to live in the Dark Tower, and yet supposedly 900 years later be living in Mirkwood Forest and be banned by the White Council BACK to Mordor?????

Originally posted by Manowar
OK! In the book, The Hobbit, when Bilbo was traveling, Gandalf left them to go into Mirkwood Forest alone and you didn't yet know why. Well, later on in the book, Gandalf comes back and said that him and the White Coucil had gone to another part of Mirkwood to chase off The Necromancer. The book later revealed that the Necromancer was actually Sauron himself, and he was banned to Mordor.

NOW this all happen probably around 100 years before Frodo was born. So in the LOTR Trilogy, you find out that around 1000 years before Frodo's journey, Isildur cut the Ring from Sauron's hand, therefore making him a Spirit and no longer a physical being.

Now i make my point:
HOW could Sauron be reduced to a Spirit, therefore having to live in the Dark Tower, and yet supposedly 900 years later be living in Mirkwood Forest and be banned by the White Council BACK to Mordor?????

First off, all your facts are off.
NOW this all happen probably around 100 years before Frodo was born.
It happened 60 years ago

you find out that around 1000 years before Frodo's journey
It was over 3000 years ago. That's enough time to gave enough strengh to move into Mirkwood and cast in into darkness.

i) Gandalf discovered the real nature of the Necromancer *before* he met Bilbo as when he found out that it was indeed Sauron he was given this map by Thrain - which was one of the reasons for Thorin to start the journey with Bilbo

ii) Isildur cut the ring off Sauron's hand 3019 years before Frodo's journey.

In the following thousand years, Sauron slowly recovered his strength and later moved to Southern Mirkwood; his captains (like the Witchking) held his strongholds in Arnor (Angmar), Mordor/Ithilien etc.

And - why does a spirit necessarily have to live in a tower in Mordor and not in Dol Guldur in Mirkwood?

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'k as usually Im too late 😂

Exa, YOUR OFF too!

He went there before the Hobbit, and found out it was Sauron (gaining the Map and Key in the process).
Then during the Hobbit the White Council drove Sauron from Dol Guldur.
Read the Appendices. 😛

Originally posted by Melkórë

The Eye, (which in the film is atop Barad-dur), and a black hand, with one finger missing.

The Eye wasn't a physical form though... it was rather psychological 😛

Frodo only saw the Eye with his "inner eye", in his thoughts, and in the Twilight "world" when he put on the ring.
The Eye is psychological horror, not a physical one 😄

Black Hand.. isnt that what Gollum called Sauron? *tries to remember*

Thats what she said. oddball

Ah, edited your post to make me an idiot, eh Exa? 😆

Originally posted by Exabyte

edit
'k as usually Im too late 😂

It's OK, ur answer is better

Melkore, nobody needs to do anything to make you an idiot.

Originally posted by Melkórë
Ah, edited your post to make me an idiot, eh Exa? 😆

I don't see it as a personal aim to make somebody an idiot 😑

I just don't want incorrect or in this case incorrectly formulated posts, and this is the reason why I changed the sentence so that it says what it's supposed to mean and not something else - as it did before when I put the temporal object to the wrong place in the phrase structure to make sense 🙂

😕

Has little to do with the topic though, this discussion...?

@Sauron
😆

@AE
🙂

Hey Sauron, kiss my-

I try not to indulge in homosexual activities, but if you want to, thats good for you 👆

Sick fecker.

STAY THIS MADNESS...(God I love that line.)

peace between the dark lords...we will have PEACE....

this is thor and discos all over again....🙄

cry cry

Originally posted by Smodden
STAY THIS MADNESS...

peace between the dark lords...we will have PEACE....

Thank you. 😐

Umm, hey, actually I think this is an interesting topic to discuss 😑 Sauron's physical appearences, I mean, his changing shapes, like werewolf, "fair" annatar, sauron the sorceror in númenor or... is there actually anybody still listening??
... or what happened to him in the millenia after the Dagor Dagorlad

...

cry
*misses Shad who would write a wonderful loooong long post now*
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Well the forms seem to carry wounds sustained by previous forms, such as the werewolf form being bitten on the throat and the vampire form also bearing the wound. Perhaps annatur looks like the Ring 😱

Originally posted by Exabyte

*misses Shad who would write a wonderful loooong long post now*

cry🙁

Shaber: what kind of elf would listen to a giant walking ring lol

Well I wouldn't have thought much of the elves... 😬 but more likely Annatur looked like a humanoid made of the same material.

C3PO wannabe?