Why I hate the LOTR movies - (like you care?)

i can almost relate to what you're saying that the majority have seen the movie and never read the books until afterwards that is...but in a way you seem unsympathetic to those who've seen it first then read it last...

if the movie itself generates interest in reading the book then i say as they say in england; bravo!

i could not wait to see the film itself and i have read it before it came out in the theaters as part of some stupid required assignment or other in english lit...and yes i too felt as you did number one, but as XO of the bridge you must learn to feel and undestand those of your subordinates...

our credo is not to debase those less fortunate, but to learn and in learning to teach. where then can you go from there but to the outer limits of your imagination that knows no bounds.

if a thing can open your eyes, then how much more so if two...a visual representation of a literal work does not do an injustice to it but it adds to the myth and or story...how much more richer then are we for having such a treasure within our midst?

Originally posted by Fëanor
a visual representation of a literal work does not do an injustice to it but it adds to the myth and or story...how much more richer then are we for having such a treasure within our midst?

That's almost another subject entirely. The magnificent thing about books is that given a great author we build worlds in our imaginations.

I defy anyone to tell me that they can now read LOTR without seeing Peter Jacksons interpretation of the places and the faces of the actors in the characters. Tragedy upon tragedy.

Not to offend anyone (see how careful I'm being!) but I can tell you this. Legolas does not look like orlando bloom in a bad blond wig. Fact! Sorry but you can't argue with this, it's science.

Originally posted by Mr Zero

Was anyone surprised to see Gandalf reappear? The films are great movies, but they are just movies & cheat you of the genuine experience & are also thus a terrible tragedy - I hate them with a passion.

i wasnt suprised, because before i saw each movie, i read the book it was based on
i was a little disipointed on how they met up with gandalf, it wasnt how i expected it to be, or how i had pictured it reading the book.

Originally posted by Mr Zero

I defy anyone to tell me that they can now read LOTR without seeing Peter Jacksons interpretation of the places and the faces of the actors in the characters. Tragedy upon tragedy.

while i won't argue that fact, but i've always imagined tolkiens world close to how peter jackson visioned it aside from the characters...and I have imagined it before seeing the film...but you cannot deny that tolkien was very descriptive down to the aroma of a landscape that the visual artists of the movie went by that description...and still i am not talking about the characters in the movie...

i cannot see how anyone would defy your statement IF they've seen the movie first then read the book, because then your challenge would be true...BUT, for those who have read it, AND have it engrained in their imagination that the movie does not take THAT away, then your defiance is likened to a fragile paper made of ash readily torn asunder as a light breeze stirs...

i myself do not see Viggo's visage when i read Aragorn's part, nor do i see Sean's traumatic death scene, but Tolkien's writing....

i understand where you're coming from, but you seem a little hard on those that cannot think as you...in this day and age of fast food and MTV, how could they

Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
i was a little disipointed on how they met up with gandalf, it wasnt how i expected it to be, or how i had pictured it reading the book.

That's because it was sidelined - and handled very poorly.

Originally posted by Mr Zero
When I was a kid I lived in a small village in Scotland.

I am very sorry to hear that.

Originally posted by Sauron
I am very sorry to hear that.

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Hey fea 😱.

I havent seen you in...well ever, but i havent seen one of your posts in weeks 🙁
Where on earth did you get to?

Mr.Zero:

I totally agree with you and what u said! I have only been a fan about two years before the films came out but i also belive the same as u!

Good point well made!

Originally posted by Mr Zero
I defy anyone to tell me that they can now read LOTR without seeing Peter Jacksons interpretation of the places and the faces of the actors in the characters.
Legolas does not look like orlando bloom in a bad blond wig.

yet I never gave up my own imagination of Middle-earth, and when I read, I find myself remembering the very first imaginations, what I thought when I first read the scenes, Faramir's first appearance - with black hair, welcoming, not asking Frodo to give him the ring; Legolas - being a normal, not-really-important, friendly and quiet elf, not somebody making half of the female audience cry "ORLI! OMG ORLI!!!" (😘) etcetc.

The movies are just an interpretation after all, nothing more and nothing less.

It wasnt orlandos fault he made everyody scream 'orli!'

Mr Zero, i feel your point.

Hundreds of Thousands of people feel the same way you do - I myself think that the movies gave me a little better understanding towards the books (I could put a face to a character).

But I dont see how you can feel so strong to "hate" the films, they are bloody great. The climax scenes made me feel hyper and great to outstanding lengths......the books just made me mumble "oh right, that was cool".

Discos - btw I am Discos

Originally posted by Discos
Mr Zero, i feel your point.

The last guy that did that got a black eye.

Originally posted by Mr Zero

I defy anyone to tell me that they can now read LOTR without seeing Peter Jacksons interpretation of the places and the faces of the actors in the characters. Tragedy upon tragedy.

I disagree...and you can defy me, but if I bend my will this way and that, I make my own pictures and my own landscape, and use my own imagination...but as feanor said, many ways that I see middle earth, are the same as PJ's visions.

Peter jackson's movies are the greatest thing I've ever seen on film, they amaze me, and whenever I see the characters and locations and events played out on film, I recall them from the book, and its a feeling that I woudn't trade for anything.

I also have to say, that MANY people never wouldn't have read the books if it hadn't been for the movie, or even heard of Middle earth. Because of the movies, I don't think anybody in the WORLD hasn't heard of LOTR.
The Books:
Nothing's beter then the first time you read 'The Lord of the Rings' as you go on the journey with the characters, you feel like your right there with them. In the fellowship, or at helm's deep, or the golden hall((the golden hall and theoden and gandalf-that section of the book was briliant))or at mordor or minas tirith, ithilien...
Nothing will ever be as great as the first time you think gandalf is dead, and then find out that he's alive in TTT...nothing will be as moving as the day Frodo leaves sam at the harbor...THe whold book has magic in it...and draws you in with each turning page. You loose track of time as you journey deeper into the passing tale, and even if you've read it before you find yourself totaly emersed in the story again....Wanting to relive every detail that you love about this book, the story of my life, in my own two hands...waiting for me to open, read, relive and repeat every moment of every page that awaits me.
I relate to the characters, and I feel like it was real.

The movies:
Its dark. Everybody's silent. A strange voice I've never heard before whispers somthing in a language that is so new to me, but I love the language instantly....she then speaks in my own tounge..."the world is changing"At this moment I didn't know what was going to happen to me, I didn't know that I would go home and start reading the books, I didn't know that I would read everything there is to know about Middle earth, including every website...I didn't know that I would find myself on a forum and meet the love of my life...all because of this instant.
I fly over armies of elven wariors fighting hideous monsters that maybee are a little like themselves...then I see it...
I hold my breath as the ring comes into view being worn by somone I already know is evil...
Chills crawl down my spine...I shake in my seat..I cry...I laugh...leave wanting more...
I go back...and see it again...and again..and again..
Peter Jackson inspired me...and showed me to the world of the books...
This masterpiece will be forever in my heart and soul...I love every part, because Its so real, its so very real that I don't want to leave it ever...and I know it won't leave me...even though there is no movie this christmas, even though the hype is gone...and burgerking dosn't have LOTR merch...The jouney of the ringbearer and his effected companions, the pain they went thru, is an experience that I went thru too...I shared Frodo's journey, I shared aragorn's doubts about himself, I shared Sam's love towards his only friend and master. and every laugh they had, every tear the wept, and every step they took, I was there. I was frodo, aragorn, sam, and everybody else...Thats how personal the books and movies are to me, they touch deep...stir emotions and take you away if only for a time from this so called 'real' world we live in now. Middle earth is my home. And I have Tolkien and Pj to thank for it😉

Originally posted by Mr Zero
The last guy that did that got a black eye.

eww.....

Originally posted by ~*~Tassie~*~
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bet ya do.....😛

Originally posted by Sauron
I am very sorry to hear that.

Im still waiting discos' reply to that....

Originally posted by Discos
bet ya do.....😛

😱..I DO! I DO I DO!!!!!

I have always been a fan of the books as i read them once when i was younger then again in English at school. So i was natural excited when i knew that they were being made into films. For me though, even if the films dont explain as much as the book, you do get a feel to the characters (like Discos said) and also a more of a sense of like realism... if thats the right word to use. I do understand where people are coming from and all but in a way the films are almost like watching a totally new LOTR's in a sense coz they miss out things... which to me is kewl as i enjoyed them as much as the books anyway.
But everyone has their own opinon... and thats kewl... sorry if this made no sense... i do babble on lol 😄