Jimi Hendrix

great drummers adapt quickly, and Carey sure as hell had Moon Bonham and Ian Paice (deep purple) as idols probably Peter Criss of Kiss too. Maybe others as well. But he was the right age when the first three were huge in the early - mid 70`s. And few could keep the pace Paice had then. Listen to either Made In Japan or California Jam with Deep Purple for the drum solos, didnt need all that many drums but boy was he able to make something out of the little fdrum set he had

"great drummers adapt quickly, and Carey sure as hell had Moon Bonham and Ian Paice (deep purple) as idols probably Peter Criss of Kiss too. Maybe others as well. But he was the right age when the first three were huge in the early - mid 70`s. And few could keep the pace Paice had then. Listen to either Made In Japan or California Jam with Deep Purple for the drum solos, didnt need all that many drums but boy was he able to make something out of the little fdrum set he had"

I do like it when people say "Listen to..." as if I haven't already. As if that would be detrimental to my judging of the drummers in question.

Jimi Hendrix had idols. It doesn't mean they are better than he was.

Danny Carey has over 30 years experience in almost every style of drumming there is. He is pathetically competent on drums. Lateralus, Hooker With A Penis, Forty-Six & 2, The Grudge and H. specifically. Nobody can match that.

If you listen to The Grudge solo, not only does he hit almost every drum on his 46 piece kit, as part of a complicated time signature, but he manages, somehow to keep hitting the cymbals also. It's almost impossible. But that's just technique. Musically I don't believe any drummer can come up with what Carey has/does/will.

-AC

I do like it when people say "Listen to..." as if I haven't already. As if that would be detrimental to my judging of the drummers in question.

If you listen to The Grudge solo,

Danny Carey has over 30 years experience in almost every style of drumming there is.

I don't believe any drummer can come up with what Carey has/does/will.

"considering your earlier quote (look above), well ..............."

I was saying that under the assumption you heard it. Coz you seem to know Carey and Tool.

"pretty good for a 43 year old guy. But he aint alone in that department though, there are plenty of session musicians around that are very capable in most styles tehy can be offered."

I'd say Josh Freese is up there. He can do anything for anyone, almost. But I just don't think he nor any other drummer could actually create the stuff Carey does.

"Its good you have a favourite but like I said with JH it is hard to determine the best since there are so many extremly good musicians out there. To say someone is the best or the likes is merly a matter of opinion."

Well yeah if it's a close call. But technically Danny Carey's methods are way ahead of any one else. Dave Lombardo and Josh Freese and the only two I'd put near him today. Bonham was the man. If he were around today things may have been different but he's not and Carey is.

-AC

Quite simply, Jimi Hendrix is conclusive proof that Aliens have visited earth.

Yeah.

Although music is subjective, some opinions are more valid than others, and it is basically accepted that Jimi is the best.

Bonham or Moon never played anything that impressed me like Carey does. Never before has a drummer been so integral and irreplacable in music of that calibre.

Never before has a drummer been so integral and irreplacable in music of that calibre.

Bonham or Moon never played anything that impressed me like Carey does

"well they never replaced Bonham though without one exeption, Live Aid 1985"

That's because other drummers can play his stuff. Tool couldn't play gigs without Carey coz there are many drum parts that no drummer could play. The fact that Carey is over 6 foot and has arms like tree trunks probably enhances his abilty also.

"then you cant hard all their material cause both put out some impressive things consider the timeline in the rock history they did their stuff"

Yes I have and none of them impress me like Carey does. Most drummers just play their part but Carey actually has his own songs within songs when he plays drums. It's like he is playing coz he wants to and the stuff becomes part of a whole, a song. As opposed to him just playing like a drone. I believe Danny Carey is the greatest drummer of all time and it will be a very very long time before anyone tops him if they do at all. However without a doubt he is the best drummer today.

-AC

Originally posted by finti
well they never replaced Bonham though without one exeption, Live Aid 1985

then you cant hard all their material cause both put out some impressive things consider the timeline in the rock history they did their stuff

Excuse me? How are you to know what I have heard. I am a massive Bonham fan, but as I said, nothing he has done has impressed me as much as Carey has. You are trying to disprove my opinion with yours.

After some great deliberation, consultation with people who I know have way more experience in all matters music, and tons of listening, it looks like I have come up with the best drummer of all time: Cobham.

Tool couldn't play gigs without Carey coz there are many drum parts that no drummer could play

Excuse me? How are you to know what I have heard. I am a massive Bonham fan, but as I said, nothing he has done has impressed me as much as Carey has. You are trying to disprove my opinion with yours

consultation with people who I know have way more experience in all matters music, and tons of listening

having a hard time finding DVDs with Jimmy, aint too much about him on DVD in Norway and the ones that are here is zone 1, my DVD is a zone 2 only😠

I meant more musical experience than me, sorry if it came out otherwise; I don't know your scope of musical knowledge, but their musical knowledge is impressive and a bit scary that one person can know so much about music in so many different genres. Though they seem to be a bit behind in the hip hop category

oh dont know too much on the hip hop category either, have always been interested in music though and pay a load of attention to it.

I meant more musical experience than me, sorry if it came out otherwise; I

Carey is not impressive to you?

he is good but a little overated

Carey is not impressive to you?

Carey is pretty impressive, but he isn't the greatist.

"dont overexagerate the skills of Carey, I heard his stuff and believe me there are drummers who can play his stuff."

Once again, read what I wrote. I said there are many drum PARTS that NO drummer could play because.......there are some drum parts that Carey plays which could be played by no other drummer. Technically. Just because YOU think I'm over-exaggerating him, doesn't make it fact. Sorry to pop that bubble. I'm not saying he whoops and destroys every drummer ever. I'm just saying no drummer (and I've heard everything you've mentioned) impresses me like Danny Carey can or does. Danny Carey's drum techniques, as with all Tool stuff, is very complex and takes time to appreciate. Many people here on this music forum tend to think age means best. Bonham was part of Zeppelin and is one of the greatest ever, however that was then and this is now. This is Danny Carey's time and I don't believe anyone alive or dead could ever or will ever match him. I'll explain why that is (IMO):

1) If it's speed that impresses you. Check out Hooker With A Penis. Or the middle of The Grudge's end drum solo. Or any other of his burst of drumming speed.

2) If it's quirky time signatures and complex rhythms, check out Lateralus or Bottom. Those are just two outstanding, not the only ones.

3) If it's quick exciting power drumming. Check out the drum break on Forty-Six & 2 or H. To name a couple.

He can do anything. This is a man in his early 40s with 30 years of drumming experience in every style. Rock, Hard Rock, Speed Metal, Punk, Thrash Metal, Jazz. You name it he can play it. Led Zeppelin could play a set with a replacement drummer who knew all the songs. So could Deep Purple. Tool could never play a whole set without Danny Carey coz no drummer can play everything he does. Some people regard Lars Ulrich as the best drummer ever yet Joey Jordison came out at Download Festival this year and played a whole set with them. Tool could never do that coz Carey is irreplacable.

"he is good but a little overated"

What the hell? Overrated? Hardly anyone besides people who have a wide musical scope know of him and as we've seen, not many people have it in them to appreciate what he does. If anything he is criminally underrated.

"Carey is pretty impressive, but he isn't the greatist."

...to you. Carey is pretty impressive but not the greatest......to you.

I respect your apparant intelligence in musical matters E.B but you really do need to start realising that your opinions are just that.

-AC

Tool could never do that coz Carey is irreplacable.

but you really do need to start realising that your opinions are just that.