Originally posted by newjak86
Yes Thor can as Beta Ray Bill has nad thor is just as strong as BRB if not stronger.Secondly Thor is very durable and has survived quite a few attacks i his day including blasts from Zeus a Skyfather being.
Thor has busted through a Celestials armour as well so stop bringing that up.
Secondly Thor can travel at faster than light speeds which is far quicker than anything Sue can react to.
Secondly the Storm was ust saying Thor can create a storm where Sue can't see anything including him.
Are you a kid or adult?
Because I am an adult. I've been reading Thor for a long time now.
Thor can travel faster than light only through dimensional portal.
Thor can fly at orbital velocity tops. Any true Thor fan knows this.
I think you are a kid though since your logic is a bit flawed in an elementary way.
This is why:
I mentioned that Sue has broken through Celestials armor to show that Thor isn't durable enough to withstand her attacks. Who cares if Thor has used the Godforce to bust Celestials armor before? It has nothing to do with my point. I think my point was common sense but yet you didn't get it.
Lastly, it has been establish that Thor is very resistant to energy based attacks (He is the god of thunder).
And I mentioned the plot device behind her breaking through the Celestial armour.
"Orbital velocity" doesn't really mean anything unless you specify what is orbiting what. Unless you meant escape velocity. The latter is still fast enough to KTFO Sue before she can do anything.
Adults don't tend to get so huffy, so maybe you should try and act a bit more like whatever your age is.
Originally posted by D-Block
Thor could hit her with a bolt of lighting before she makes a bubble in his head Thor has the reaction time of god speed that's faster than sue. And how can she do anything if Thor has his shied up. Thor could eventually break her shield her stamina isn't any where close to his but she I don't see her breaking his while being attacked all her concentration will go on the defense because one hit on her without her shields up and she's gone.
Come on now. You have to do better than that if you want Thor to win.
What you are saying is ridiculous and nonsense to the 10th degree.
First of all, in this forum, no has a head start before battle unless prep is mentioned. Second, Sue can activate her force field instantaneously (faster than light). There is nothing going to prevent her from either creating a bubble inside Thor's body or shooting him with an invisible concussive projectile. And where do you get the fact that Sue is just going to sit there and try to let Thor break her field without her even fighting back? That's dumb sh@#!
And where do you get that Thor has a force field?
Not that it matters anyway since she can create bubbles anywhere in space.
If Thor can truly win this fight easily then there should be someone who can state how. Because frankly, I don't see how. Please enlighten me.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And I mentioned the plot device behind her breaking through the Celestial armour."Orbital velocity" doesn't really mean anything unless you specify what is orbiting what. Unless you meant escape velocity. The latter is still fast enough to KTFO Sue before she can do anything.
Adults don't tend to get so huffy, so maybe you should try and act a bit more like whatever your age is.
I'm not huffy. I just don't like arguing with people who have silly arguments (arguments that are flawed in an elementary way). They tend to not understand good reasoning and usually the argument gets nowhere (which is a waste of time).
Like I said, Sue can summon force fields instantaneously. She has done this a billion times. Often stopping energy based attacks moving at the speed of light from hitting her.
I am a very understanding and humble person. I don't have the slightest bias in me in these arguments (at least I don't think so). That doesn't mean that I am never wrong. There were many debates where I quickly changed sides without hesitation when someone pointed out something that made sense and or proved me wrong.
With that said. If Thor can possibly beat Sue. Then there should be a least one good argument stating how. Believe me, I will definitely agree that Thor can win if such an argument exists and I read it.
All I heard thus far is
1. Why is this so long?
2. Because they dont know who the f@#k Thor is.
3. Thor can take people's soul (dumbness thing I ever heard)
4. Thor can strike sue before she gets a force field up.
5. Thor can teleport her.
6. Thor can move faster than light.
Some of these were really desperate.
But none of them shows why Thor can win (for various reasons).
Trust me, I want Thor to win. But I don't see how, especially knowing what Sue can do and has done.
She isn't faster than light. She doesn't have FTL reflexes she has human reflexes. Liberties are taken with things "that move at the speed of light", Wolverine/Captain America/other street levellers dodge lasers.
Anyone fast enough can K-her-TFO before she can react. Do you think she can beat the Flash/Zoom/Superman/Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter/Captain Marvel and so on? No because she isn't fast enough.
noone is doubting Thor's power and i've already stated that unless sue is in the right state of mind she would loose, the thing is thor can not reach her before her shield comes up point blank he's not faster than a thought by the time his body starts moving it would be active and even if he jumped her thoes powers have become second nature to sue i'm pretty sure if she was taken by suprise that they would activate insticntively, sue in her normal state of mind just isnt creative or ruthless enough to stop thor but she has proven to be quite deadly when she was upset, the versitility of the force bubble should never be underestimate she as many options with them
Originally posted by h1a8I'm not even going to refer to the first part of your post.
Are you a kid or adult?
Because I am an adult. I've been reading Thor for a long time now.
Thor can travel faster than light only through dimensional portal.
Thor can fly at orbital velocity tops. Any true Thor fan knows this.
I think you are a kid though since your logic is a bit flawed in an elementary way.This is why:
I mentioned that Sue has broken through Celestials armor to show that Thor isn't durable enough to withstand her attacks. Who cares if Thor has used the Godforce to bust Celestials armor before? It has nothing to do with my point. I think my point was common sense but yet you didn't get it.
Lastly, it has been establish that Thor is very resistant to energy based attacks (He is the god of thunder).
Secondly it has already been stated and why I never took your Celestal arguement seriously that a huge plot device was used to allow the feat. Heck SuperBoy Prime was rewriting the Multiverse with a punch because he hit a certain wall does that mean he can now take of the Presence and that he can do it all the time NO.
Next yes Thor is a God and as such has high levels of durability I'm glad you finally understand that concept and no it isn't just energy it is the fact he is a very tough being he has withstood skyfatherands gone Toe to Toe with Thanos.
Secondly he is described as haing Godly reaction times which by the way are around light speed because he has taken on beings with great speed in the likes of Gladiator and Silver Surfer.
He has been stated to move at the speeds of lighting which are greater than simple escape velocities.
Next my friend Sue shilds may be instant but they are only instant to her thought abilities which are still only Human.
So if you want to look at a who hits who first the person who can throw and swing their weapon at lightspeed is going to get the first hi every time compared to someone with bsic human reaction times.
Next Sue is not gong to instantly kill Thor may cause great pain but every part of his body is as Durable as is outside. So a being that withstand the full force Gladiator's Punches and withstand Skyfather level attacks isn't going down that quickly allowing him ampl time to teleort Sue away or aunch his own conter attack and his power aren't based on liner attacks either he could summan lighting inside of Sue's shilds if he wanted to.
He can create a whirlwind around blocking off all her sigh and not allowing her move.
he could if he wanted tleport her to the sun. He could up into the sky where she can not she him and simply Godforce Blast the entire area destroying earth in the process possibly and if you don't believe that then well Sue is still done for as a huge chasem in the Earth is now there.
Basically your relying on Sue's ability to Hurt Thor which is in question as well as your using a very plot indueced feat to try and explain something when Thor himself has already produced a similar feat withot said plot device.
Srry but who is using the faulty logic here 😕 😕
Oh yeah you 😉
lets say that ur right about thor's speed and he moves ligthing fast all the time....last time i cheed lighting didnt move so fast that you cant see it...even if it's only for a second or 2 you can still see it that'a what i'm getting at sue who has better than average human reaction time from all of her advernturing can still see thor comeing thus she can raise her shield your right about what thor can do but it's not instantanious either, thor has to channel his energies in mjolnir for most of thoes feats all sue needs to do is think, but when it comes to pure power thor wins, sue has the slight edge in speed due to the fact that the process of useing her abilities is shorter than thor, sue only needs to think thor must think and then activte his abilities
i have to go but before i do this just came to mind .. thoese argueing about thor's speed forgot this detail that's thor's travel speed your talking about not his combat speed, most imporatiantly it's the speeds Mjolnir allows him to travel at infact most of thor's power rest in Mjolnir without it all he has is strenght, anyways combat speed wise thor is not as fast as u clam if he was noone short of s superpseeder would be able to hit him and we all know that's not true right
Originally posted by lando005You do understand how far lighting travels in that one second right??
lets say that ur right about thor's speed and he moves ligthing fast all the time....last time i cheed lighting didnt move so fast that you cant see it...even if it's only for a second or 2 you can still see it that'a what i'm getting at sue who has better than average human reaction time from all of her advernturing can still see thor comeing thus she can raise her shield your right about what thor can do but it's not instantanious either, thor has to channel his energies in mjolnir for most of thoes feats all sue needs to do is think, but when it comes to pure power thor wins, sue has the slight edge in speed due to the fact that the process of useing her abilities is shorter than thor, sue only needs to think thor must think and then activte his abilities
You can see it because it is so far away. Now if a lighting bolt hits you as is most cases with people they never see it coming they never even knew they were hit just the fact the were hit understand.
As for Thor being hit that can be said for any speedster. Why does Superman get hit by people that can't move past the speed of sound. Why is Flash always getting hit because they have to in comics otherwise the comic would be boring. The fact is Thor has fought against speedsters like Gladiator and kept up before he has been discribed as reacting and moving at the speed lighting before. He has been stated that he can throw and swing his hammer at the speed of light.
Incase No one posted them allraedy:
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Now, how many times Invisible woman could do this is questionable
& that was cloned version of thor
so,
