Originally posted by Accel
1. He's done it with just a motion. Same as Sue.2. Prove that Sue is quicker. I can show you Thor swing ing his hammer faster than light and throiwing it faster than light. What do you have to offer to suggest Sue is faster than that?
3. How would it not matter if he's faster? Are you going to argue that Sue will put a bubble in his head after the hammer smacks her int he face?
4. He's taken powers away from a fellow God and even negated Juggernaut's power before. Compared to them, Sue will be no problem.
5. Buddy, your scenario involves Sue in bloodlust and Thor not even knowing a fight is going on. Do you think that's the only way she can win?
1. I fail to see that
2. Thor being quicker and swinging and throwing his hammer has nothing to do with whether he can get a shield up in an instant. There is absolutely nothing I've seen that shows Thor getting a shield up in an instant.
3. That's why I said it is arguable. It actually depends on the writers here.
4. I admit that if Sue doesn't get her shield up then she's toast. Thus the only possible way for her to win is to have her precious shield. I also admitted that it all depends on how the fight starts. Since it wasn't stated in the thread its best to assume she gets her shield up. Otherwise there wouldn't but much to talk about. Now would it? And the reason I mentioned Bloodlust Sue a lot because I don't think she has a good chance of winning if she's not. But remember that if Thor isn't in bloodlust mode either then this battle is also hard for him as well. He simply would not be in killing mode.
Also, depending on how the fight goes, sue can start off invisible.
Please don't have a cow okay. I said it depends on how the fight begins.
A better estimate would be 5/10 if neither is in bloodlust and depending on how the fight starts. It can go either way mostly depending on how the fight starts. If the maker of this thread can clarify how the fight starts (Does sue has her shields up? Does sue have her invisibility up?) Then this thread would have been over a long time ago. But many of us were assuming how the fight would start according to our own preference. So either accept this judgement or assume that Sue gets her shield up (since she can't win if she don't) and then argue.
Agreed?