Originally posted by Darth Revan
Tomb raiding is wrong, sorry. How would you like it if some foreign guy came over here one day and decided to dig up your grandma's grave to see what was in it?
we do it all the time in the name of science. And when Im dead I wont care. stealing food if your starving is another example
Ush is right
aah well I found another thing that is (atleast in belgium) a crime and shouldn't be one committing suicide, is a crime in belgium, you are hardly ever prosecuted but you will have to pay for all the costs that were needed to A save your life B help you get better.
About Tomb Raiding, in the name of science I don't consider it a crime but for personal gain it is a crime
Originally posted by Darth Revan
Graffiti isn't wrong... I know there's some other stuff but I can't think of it at the moment
i dont see how graffiting isnt wrong. its destruction of public and/or private prperty really. if you went to a public park to enjoy the scenery, i dont think you like to see graffiti on things such as retaining walls or public restrooms.
i dont think you would appritiate graffiti on the side of your house would you? expecially if you were trying to sell your house.
besides, graffiti is just ugly.
Since we are in the philosophy forum...
You seem to be asking for a moral judgment - if we can name a criminal action which we feel is "not wrong" - for the sake of argument lets call it "right".
However criminal acts are not about what we do or do not find "wrong" as individuals - thats an arbitrary moral judgment you are asking for. Although it's often supposed that if you break the law you are "bad" that predisposes that the laws in question are "good" - it's been proved historically over and over again that this isnt the case.
A criminal act is one which is committed in violation of an existing law - nothing more or less: Its a method by which governmental punishment can be meted out to keep the population "safe". (or as some would tell you "in check"😉
Wrong or Right does not come into it - you are either in violation of the law or you are not: the only deciding factor being that it depends on how good a solicitor you can afford.
The actions that make you "criminal" or not are often portrayed as moral actions by the media, but this is only because the laws - designed to uphold the current ruling body - have to be justified somehow and this is the easiest way of selling it to a population.
What constitutes a fair and reasonable law varies from country to country, state to state, decade to decade. It's smart to be aware of the laws you are expected to live under, but far smarter to make up your own mind what "right and wrong" are.
/rant.
Originally posted by §nakehead
we do it all the time in the name of science. And when Im dead I wont care. stealing food if your starving is another example
But you don't need to actually go IN the tomb to see what's there. They have the technology now to get a camera in a tomb without letting any outside air in, so they can study it without disturbing it at all.
My idea on drugs is... It's not morally "wrong" to do drugs. Just because you're harming yourself doesn't make it so. And the act of smoking pot or sniffing crack itself doesn't hurt the public either. Yes, drugs indirectly do damage to society, all I'm saying is that making using them illegal isn't going to help anything.
So like, bars and pubs in Norway aren't allowed benches outside or anything?yno they are allowed bences and tables outside, I thought I edited my reply but the machine froze so I didnt get to check wetter it was the first unedited or the edited one that got posted.
drinking a beer outside in not asigned public places like bars/pubs and restaurants.that quote should have read
Sorry for the unclear post
Consensual sexual acts between adults should not be illegal.
When money is involved, however, "consent" can be justifiably questioned. The act is not performed because it is desired or enjoyed on an emotional or physical level. It is performed for money and often the need for money stems from desperate circumstances. Its almost a "gun to the head" kind of consent. Sex work is work that no one should have to perform- it is dangerous, it is abusive. Kind of like working in a slaughterhouse. So why is that legal?
Sorry that paragraph is off-topic, but I was anticipating that someone would bring up prostitution is response to my first sentence.
To clarify it, all that was necessary, I felt. But sodomy, homosexuality, sale, demonstration, and use of sex toys- all good in my book. But people get arrested for these things to this date.
Re: criminal actions you dotn find wrong
Originally posted by bardock
i dont think drug dealers are doing anything more than giving people what they want. the volience only comes becausse it is against the law. do you guys have any thoughts on the topic?
Re: criminal actions you dotn find wrong
Originally posted by bardock
i dont think drug dealers are doing anything more than giving people what they want. the volience only comes becausse it is against the law. do you guys have any thoughts on the topic?
I've got to say that although dealers are perhaps simply doing a 'public service' in some people's views, they still deal to children and first timers. Dealers don't give a damn who they sell to, I was a dealer and although I was conscientious at first, I'll be the first to admit that as the easy money came rolling in, the conscience went rolling out 😬