Originally posted by WindDancer
The Omega> The right wing freaks abuse their "freedom of speech"? Yeah, I agree with that. I also know that they aren't the only ones.
So, what? That makes it okay?
Again: Accusing someone of being a TRAITOR for voicing his/her opinion and not heil to a flag or a political leader with whom they disagree is WAY out of proportions.
WindDancer> To me it’s not a question of sides. When anyone yells TRAITOR at people for not being fanatically patriotic no matter what a political leader does it is OUT of proportions.
It completely closes off any possibility of having a civilised debate, where points and arguments are presented.
(Who thought you were a traitor during the Clinton-administration?)
Originally posted by The Omega
WindDancer> To me it’s not a question of sides. When anyone yells TRAITOR at people for not being fanatically patriotic no matter what a political leader does it is OUT of proportions.
It completely closes off any possibility of having a civilised debate, where points and arguments are presented.(Who thought you were a traitor during the Clinton-administration?)
But you see if someone calls another person a traitor is simply dumb! Even more dumber is to believe that you are traitor just because someone else calls you a traitor! To put it simply......I don't agree with the president....some guy calls me a traitor.......I don't care! Is a matter of opinion!
Originally posted by Darth Revan
No, that doesn't make you a traitor. Period. And that's a fact. Not liking one political figure doesn't make you a traitor. Everybody dislikes certain politicians.
That's good!
TRA'ITOR, n. L. traditor; trado, to deliver.
1. One who violates his allegiance and betrays his country; one guilty of treason; one who, in breach of trust, delivers his country to its enemy, or any fort or place entrusted to his defense, or who surrenders an army or body of troops to the enemy, unless when vanquished; or one who takes arms and levies war against his country; or one who aids an enemy in conquering his country.
Darth> I think you're right about the dumber than usual.
Bush-quotes:
"Anyway, after we go out and work our hearts out, after you go out and help us turn out the vote, after we've convinced the good Americans to vote, and while they're at it, pull that old George W lever, if I'm the one, when I put my hand on the Bible, when I put my hand on the Bible, that day when they swear us in, when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to not - to uphold the laws of the land." Toledo, Ohio, October 27 2000
•"It's important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the internet." Arlington Heights, Illinois, October 24 2000
•"I don't want nations feeling like that they can bully ourselves and our allies. I want to have a ballistic defence system so that we can make the world more peaceful, and at the same time I want to reduce our own nuclear capacities to the level commiserate with keeping the peace." Des Moines, Iowa, October 23 2000
•"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." LaCrosse, Wisconsin, October 18 2000
•"It's going to require numerous IRA agents." On Gore's tax plan, Greensboro, North Carolina, October 10 2000
•"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions. I can't answer your question." In response to a question about whether he wished he could take back any of his answers in the first presidential debate. Reynoldsburg, Ohio, October 4 2000 (Thanks to Peter Feld)
Originally posted by The Omega
Darth> I think you're right about the dumber than usual.
Bush-quotes:
"Anyway, after we go out and work our hearts out, after you go out and help us turn out the vote, after we've convinced the good Americans to vote, and while they're at it, pull that old George W lever, if I'm the one, when I put my hand on the Bible, when I put my hand on the Bible, that day when they swear us in, when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to not - to uphold the laws of the land." Toledo, Ohio, October 27 2000
•"It's important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the internet." Arlington Heights, Illinois, October 24 2000•"I don't want nations feeling like that they can bully ourselves and our allies. I want to have a ballistic defence system so that we can make the world more peaceful, and at the same time I want to reduce our own nuclear capacities to the level commiserate with keeping the peace." Des Moines, Iowa, October 23 2000
•"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." LaCrosse, Wisconsin, October 18 2000
•"It's going to require numerous IRA agents." On Gore's tax plan, Greensboro, North Carolina, October 10 2000
•"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions. I can't answer your question." In response to a question about whether he wished he could take back any of his answers in the first presidential debate. Reynoldsburg, Ohio, October 4 2000 (Thanks to Peter Feld)
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