Sexuality

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
Backfire & Capita: Thats what this thread is about, your opinions on if it's wrng to be gay or bi.

There's plenty of scriptures in the bible thats states very plainly that it's wrong. 🙂

Yes I am aware of that, I am just stating that for example that Guy I know would find what you're saying very offensive, If you think Homosexuality is wrong, go ahead, but do not relate it whatsoever with Satan. Lets just say that God created man to love man and woman to love woman, and you attracted to the opposite sex, you can't help loving the opostite sex can you? Its the same thing with homosexuals they can't help it, that is what they are. Imagine then people relating your sexual identity to Satan. That would be harsh, because all your doing is following your heart, and loving, doing what God commands, 'loving'.

i said it before , God made us in his/her image . i know the God i believe to be our god will not look down on us for loving who we love .

This is about sodom and gomarrah

Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
Gen 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
Gen 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
Gen 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
Gen 19:9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
Gen 19:10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.
Gen 19:11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.Gen 19:12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
Gen 19:13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.
Gen 19:14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.
Gen 19:15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
Gen 19:16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
Gen 19:17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
Gen 19:18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:
Gen 19:19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast showed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:Gen 19:20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.
Gen 19:21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.
Gen 19:22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
Gen 19:23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
Gen 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
Gen 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

with all do respect sweetie , i know the story . however , i dont believe everything i read . especailly from the Bible......

anyone who knows me here knows i mean no disrespect to you but the fact is , its just a book written by man not by our god/goddess .

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
2 Tim 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
2 Tim 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 Tim 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2 Tim 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2 Tim 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2 Tim 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Lev 18:23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

ok wasn't sure you knew the story from your answer. Not being disrespectful hun

I don't let the bible decide what I think is and isn't wrong. It's an ancient book with ancient ideas that for the most part have no place in todays society. I highly doubt that if there is a god, he will punish all homosexuals for the way they are. And if he does, then he is one shitty, cruel and incompetant god.

hmmm...

I have to argue this whole "its not a choice" thing. If you mean that you can't help being what you are, sure, I agree with that. On the other hand, if youre saying that people are just born gay, I would have to disagree. If you ask gay people about their past, most have had some horrible, abusive or otherwise traumatic thing happen to them. It could happen at a very young age, but its there. I would reckon that about 75 percent of gay people suffered abuse (physical, sexual, verbal, etc.) at the hands of someone of the opposite sex.

Every single gay person I've known well enough to ask about their past has had some form of trauma from someone of the opposite sex. To me, those kinds of stats are kind of indisputable. I'm sure some people are just attracted to their own gender, but I think that percentage of the gay population is low compared to the people that were turned away from heterosexuality because of some evil abusive bastard.

Strange, all of the homosexual I know have led perfectly normal and decent lives.

Maybe I just know the freaks...

Perhaps, whatever the case I know that their are many homosexual that fall under the catagory you described, but I think they're not as abundant as you seem to think.

"Born Gay" isnt exactly what I'm saying, When i was 5 I wasnt even thinking of boys and i am sure a little gay boy wasnt thinking of one either, Its just when we start feeling attraction towards somebody it is when you discover your sexual identity, A guy I know (same guy from my other posts) had his 1st crush when he was in the 3rd grade (on a boy). His parents are wonderful people and so is he, He hasn't suffered a trauma or anything, its just that, thats his sexual identity. It has nothing with being born gay, but he didn't choose to like boys either, its just the way it is.

Personally I don't know why there is a thread about this, its so weird, Whats the big deal with homosexuality?........

I think its wrong 😐

Why!?

Well im a christian and its agaisnt my beliefs.Its a violation of Gods law 😬

I'm Catholic and its against my beliefs too, Homosexuals aren't even allowed to recieve a sacrament of God, but I don't think its wrong. Its their sexual identity.

but in any case, everybody follows their own beliefs and its totally cool 🙂
just as long as nobody is hurt or hated.

Well you know my kind of church is open to all kind of people.We allow them in our church if they want to hear from the lord.But if there not interested in changing there ways then there not aloud.You can say its there sexual agenda,nonetheless its still a sin in the eyes of the lord.

One thing that does suck though is that, the one guy I know his boyfriend is really, really, really hot! He's gorgeous! and I'm like Hah! i wish! That man could be mine, too bad he's gay!

Only problem I have When I see really hot guys are gay, because I wish I could hit on them hehe, but Its cool I guess! woot-woot!

Many fish (babes) in the ocean!

Its a big pond theres plenty of hot guys out there that arent gay.Myself included but im 13 probaly too younge for you 🙁

Originally posted by Stormy Day
Well you know my kind of church is open to all kind of people.We allow them in our church if they want to hear from the lord.But if there not interested in changing there ways then there not aloud.You can say its there sexual agenda,nonetheless its still a sin in the eyes of the lord.

But how can it be a sin? I mean how do you tell an 8 year old boy that he can't follow his heart and like another boy because he is sinning, all he is doing is loving and loving is not a sin, mind you. 🙂