lol logan.
Yea i know Superman is far stronger but Flash can go far far faster than he can. Yea superman is obviously much stronger but u seem to think superman could compare with flashes speed, theres no way he could 😑 And yea the flash does have superhuman strength 5 - 10 class i think (he can lift that amount in tons) not sure on the figure though. It might be just 1 class strength not realy sure lol 😑
When Flash and Superman have raced, they've always been almost perfectly matched in speed, although I think Flash won the last one.
I suspect that some or all of the races might have been pre-Crisis, however, or even a different Flash. I really should have done a little research before posting this, but I'm extremely lazy.
Originally posted by MaverickIce
Flash past the speed of light
Wrong.
Yeah, he's been fighting since his conception, but almost 95% of his existance has been in the form of a near mindless beast.
Inaccurate. Almost 95% of his existence has been in the form of **Savage Hulk** who has the IQ and disposition of an innocent and trusting child. **Mindless Hulk,** who first appeared in Hulk #299, would be the "near mindless beast" whom you reference.
I'm pretty sure he was able to fly at light speed at one stage.
Pre-Crisis, yes.
I suspect that some or all of the races might have been pre-Crisis, however, or even a different Flash.
Hrm. Barry Allen?
Anywho, will throw my curveball, say you are all mistaken, and introduce a seldom mentioned name: Val, aka The Karate Kid. Read below.
Karate Kid is regarded as the greatest living practitioner of the martial arts in the known universe, and has mastered virtually every form of combat, weaponry, and philosophy in the galaxy.
Since the re-boot, Karate Kid has done the following:
-Defeated Daxamites in one-on-one combat, not once but THRICE.
-During combat with said Daxamites, he was able to hurt one of them with a straight forward kick to the face. Sending him out of the planets atmosphere.
-Detected weaknesses in objects, to the point of being able to sense flaws and weak points on a molecular level. Using this ability in combination with his other martial abilities, he has been able to break objects that were suppose to be almost unbreakable, including a force field designed to hold the most dangerous criminals in the galaxy. With a single blow. <<<<-----------------
– Able to shatter Inerton, the universe's strongest substance and 14’ titanium Manganite with his bare hands. <<<<--------------
-Re-direct an object in mid-flight that was moving at near-light speeds.
-Dodge all manner of attacks, from bullets to arrows to heat vision blasts fired at superspeed.
-Has been able to tell if someone is being mind-controlled based solely on that person's body language.
-Has been able to defeat large numbers of opponents by himself, including mobs of criminals from a prison
housed inside a star.
– Defeated the Fatal Five single-handedly.
-Was able to defeat, disarm and throw to the ground someone wearing a suit of powered armor.
-Defeat Evolvo in Ape mode, then take out armed security guards in a single pannel.
-Demonstrated hearing so acute that he heard someone's heart beating over a kilometer away.
– Developed the skill to read opponents movements much like Midnighter from Wildstorm and Batgirl from DC.
- Can enhance his strength, speed, and reflexes by his Chi.
-Defeated the most dangerous assassin in the galaxy, the Empress, with one move.
-In his Legion Worlds appearance, even an out of shape Val (who claimed to feel soft and slow) was shown to be able to withstand a sucker punch from someone who had beaten Ferro almost to death. Said someone was from a high gravity world that apparently gave him near-to-equal Daxamite levels of strength and durability. He was then able to make that person cough up blood, cry out in pain and lift the superheavy foe off of the ground with attacks.
- Defeated Thunder, the 31st Century Captain Marvel with ease. SHAZAM!
Checkmate? And...remember, there is no such thing as "overpowered" 🙄
Originally posted by Magee
Supermans speed is limited and it is only a fraction of flash's. Speed of light?? 800 milles per second or something like that. But superman does have the strength making him probably maybe hit harder than flash 😕
Dude, even the modern day supes can move at hundreds of thousands prob millions of miles an hour.which is still much slower than Flash going at lightspeed(which is approx 900,000,000 miles an hour). but as a combo of speed and strength(supes must be able to lift millions of tonnes maybe billions considering he moved planets), supes out scores flash.Flash lifts 5-10 tonnes?.where the hell did you read that?I had no idea! In any case flash def cant punch harder than supes.
Inaccurate. Almost 95% of his existence has been in the form of **Savage Hulk** who has the IQ and disposition of an innocent and trusting child. **Mindless Hulk,** who first appeared in Hulk #299, would be the "near mindless beast" whom you reference
Where did I go wrong here? Read the last sentence of my original post.
Yeah, he's been fighting since his conception, but almost 95% of his existance has been in the form of a near mindless beast. A being with the mind of an infant would have trouble retaining the skills from a previous battle im my opinion
Sorry if I wasnt exact. I was merely pointing out that he was a great deal inferior when it came to the intelligence of a normal adult human being and himself.
Damn right he ain't no scissy. I exaggerate though, he knocked him on is arse, but it was to win the fight coz Thor was out for a tiny while.
Yeah, Wonder Man knocked Thor out with one punch too. Maybe Wonder Man has the hardest punch,,,,,,,,,,,,,Nah!