A question on the immortality of Elves.

well, after 4000 years, would u get bored? if it was just u that was immortal, all your friends, family would have died. u'd be all alone. that's the curse, IMO.

..Not if my family were elves too..

Not rue it Tolkie'n world, but in our world, it would be easy to become lost with all the changes in society after thousands of years.

Well, it's ur opinion. maybe u can better handle imortality, although I'm sure u'd attrack a lot of media attention about being 3000 years old

😆 😆 Probably ^^

I'd never want to be immortal 😖 imo the Dúnedain's 200 years or so are already a lot too long... I wouldn't even want to live 70 years or so 😖 that's way too long

The fact that the elves and most humans live longer in Middle-earth is also mirrored in all the development of their culture... it's a lot slower... especially for the languages of the elves, they didn't just change completely in 1000 years or so like it happened in Europe 😬 [I think Tolkien gave more exact numbers somewhere 😕]

It'd be nice to see what the world would bring thousands from years from now, who knows what we'll have.

Originally posted by Exabyte
There is no "point" in immortality... neither is there a point in living 🙄

Actually, mortality is a gift, a gift of freedom to mankind, and though men sometimes may envy elves' long lives, it's rather a burden to live so long

About your question -- for example, elves are not assailed by illnesses which were a huge problem for mankind - most of all of course the plague that for example also killed one Gondorean king and all his children except for one... I think it was even one of the reasons for the end of the kingdom of Gondor 😑 ........... however, elves also do not die of most injuries that would kill mortals, just think of Arwen's mother Celebrían, she was hit by a poisoned arrow, yet Elrond could heal her.... though they won't for example survive a decapitation 😛

The huge difference is rather after their death - elves are bound to the earth, they are reborn and will live forever as long as the world lives, always reborn in their children or their spirits dwelling in Valinor, while men depart forever, they are free to leave while elves have to stay - though nobody knows what happens to men after their death 😛

I guess men come to heaven 🙄
Remember Tolkien was christian. I guess he would let that be, rite?

supposedly.

Originally posted by eezy45
I guess men come to heaven 🙄
Remember Tolkien was christian. I guess he would let that be, rite?

The ideas for the fate of men are rather for example that there is a second Hall of Waiting in Mandos' Halls for them... separated from the elves' one... where they have to go before they leave Arda

Originally posted by Exabyte
He was a christian, but his fictional religion wasn't all based on that...
There isn't even a heaven in Middleearth 😬 they have Valinor instead ^^ but that's where the elves go...

The ideas for the fate of men are rather for example that there is a second Hall of Waiting in Mandos' Halls for them... separated from the elves' one... where they have to go before they leave Arda

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Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever
Not all elves go to Valinor. Frodo and Bilbo went. 🙂

A majority of elves went...unless they had been killed! lol

Two years after the Ring was destroyed, Frodo and Bilbo as Ring-bearers were given the right to travel to Tol Eressëa where, though remaining mortal, they might rest and be healed, together with Gandalf, Elrond and Galadriel. They boarded a ship from the Grey Havens and passed over the sea on 29 September, T.A. 3021. Having no children of his own, Frodo left his estate and passed on the Red Book to Sam, who, according to Hobbit legend, followed Frodo across the sea sixty-one years later, following the death of his wife Rose (nee) Cotton.

Originally posted by DanielLB
A majority of elves went...unless they had been killed! lol

Two years after the Ring was destroyed, Frodo and Bilbo as Ring-bearers were given the right to travel to Tol Eressëa where, though remaining mortal, they might rest and be healed, together with Gandalf, Elrond and Galadriel. They boarded a ship from the Grey Havens and passed over the sea on 29 September, T.A. 3021. Having no children of his own, Frodo left his estate and passed on the Red Book to Sam, who, according to Hobbit legend, followed Frodo across the sea sixty-one years later, following the death of his wife Rose (nee) Cotton.

ur quite slow ... read the books, I'd advise you. And the immortality thing ... well ... you know what? i could ask the same question about humans but in reverse. Why do humans die? Why aren't humans immortal? You see, not everyone has to be like you ... elves are different from us and i would say, they're even better than us ... so theres your answer. Immortality is just as reasonable as mortality.

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