Storm vs Wonder Woman

To Cosmic Cube:

Bullets can't kill Wonder Woman. When the DC Corporation revised Wonder Woman, following the Crisis of Infinite Earths, they increased her strength, speed, and invulnerability significantly. When revising the character, Chris Claramont had the option of getting rid of her bracelets. He felt that the bracelets were an intergral part of her character, so he kept them. Wonder Woman once took a hit from an concussive blast with an energy yield of a small nuclear weapon from behind. She was barely fazed from the attack. Diana's taken hits from Doomsday, White Martians, Superman, and Captain Marvel; she shrugged of the hits and kept fighting. Bullets can't kill her. She use the bracelets to either deflect physical blows, reflect energy blasts or bullets back at her opponents, or utilize a forcefield to protect her from attacks that could harm her ( I'll get into this later )

Superman CAN deliver a flurry of superspeed punches. For a recent example, read Superman #207, pg. 23. From this you can see Superman unleashing a series of superspeed attacks upon another cyborg. One thing that has bogged down DC comics is the inconsistencies with their characters powers. You asked the right question. Why doesn't Superman unleash a superspeed punch to every foe he meets and call it a day? Because it would be boring. So the writers rarely make Wonder Woman or Superman use the superspeed against their foes. It doesn't mean they can't. It just would be completely unappealing to have a two-page comic where Wonder Woman just uses her superspeed and knocks the Cheetah out with one punch. Wonder Woman and Superman DO possess the speed to take their opponents down in several moves. But the writers just don't write this way. With good reason too.

Back in the War of Gods storyline, Wonder Woman took on Shazam. Shazam endlessly pummeled her with magical lightining. Magic lightining is extremely more powerful than physical lighening. Diana withstood these attacks with ease.

This is from a previous post concerning the forcefield thing you don't believe exist : According to the Wonder Woman Handbook (found in Barnes & Noble, Graphic Novels section) when Diana crosses her bracelets, she creates a magical forcefield that can deflect and buffer almost any attack. Diana once even reflected Darkseid's Omega Beams back at him using this forcefield (Superman/Batman comic, the New Supergirl storyline). Phil Jimeniz illustrated this maneuver many times during his scribe period for the WW comic. Wonder Woman also used this maneuver when she fought a hybrid of Superman and Doomsday that her arch nemesis Circe created.

Originally posted by Draco69
First of all, Thanos is God. He possesses godly strength, endurance, intelligence and REFLEXES. Secondly, he has godlike telepathy. He sensed Silver Surfer's presence. Thirdly, Thanos already knows how Silver Surfer fights.

Originally posted by Draco69

From WW profile at starnet-database.com:

Wonder Woman possesses reflex abilities similar to lower-level speedsters such as Jesse Quick and Max Mercury, somewhere in the range of 8 to 20 times normal human reflexes with concentration. She, however, does not maintain her enhanced speed awareness due to the temporal difficulties such thinking causes her.

Originally posted by Draco69

Experience:

Storm is NOWHERE near the experience that Wonder Woman possesses. Ororo spent the first half of her life (until 19 to 21) in Africa. She possessed little to no combat experience whatsoever. First she was thief in Cairo and pick pocketed peoples’ money for a living. After that, she was worshipped as goddess by several tribes. She basically halted famines and made it rain so that the tribes’ crops could grow. She was then recruited by Professor Xavier into the X-Men. From then on than, she’s had several years of training and battle experience. She was also trained by Wolverine.

Originally posted by Draco69
Captain America once dodged Storm's lighting blasts during an X-Men/Avengers crossover. Diana's a hundred times faster than him.

Originally posted by Draco69

Hurricane winds can be broken through. Diana possesses the strength to do so.

Can Wonder Woman survive in a vacuum? Can she withstand debris hurled by winds that can sink pieces of straw into stone walls? This while having her senses assaulted by roaring winds and booming thunder. Your source says she needs concentration for super speed, how exactly is she going to concentrate in the middle of one massive storm?

To Khellandros:

Read the entire article! Read my previous posts. I dispute your arguments already. I'm not retyping everything.

FINE you big whiner, I'll boil my post down.

-) Can Wonder Woman survive in a vacuum?

-) Can she acheive the concentration needed to use super speed in the noise of a thunderstorm/tornado while being pelted with debris?

-) Thanos was subduing his powers, so he wasn't "God" when he reacted to Silver Surfer.

-) In what source is it said that Weather Wizard is better at manipulating weather patterns than Storm?

I've read every post in this thread, I don't think I need to bother again.

- Yes. She can hold her breath for hours. And do really think 300 mph winds are going to hold her?

-She doesn't need concentration. One superspeed punch and before Storm can fly off, Ororo's out like a light. Storm needs to concentrate to create a thunderstorm, tornado, etc. Concentration requires time. Time she simply doesn't have

- Thanos WASN'T subduing his powers at the time of the attack. His machines alerted him of SS's presence and he reverted back to his godform. Too bad this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the battle between Storm and Wonder Woman.

-Flash #207 (April 2004): “Rush Hour,” Geoff Johns
Flash #210 (July 2004): “Reconnected,” Geoff Johns
Flash #214, 216 (November 2004–January 2005): “The Secret of Barry Allen” Parts 1 & 3, Geoff Johns (cameo)
Flash #217 (February 2005): “Post-Crisis,” Geoff Johns

just wondering, but does wonderwoman have the ability to survive teperatures 4 to 7 times hotter then the surface of the sun?
and can she fly, run, move at over 300000 miles per second?

after viewing and doing more research on Wonder Woman, she is more powerful than I thought and certainly gave Juggernaut a run for his money when they fought and certainly can fight and hang with the likes of Superman and the Hulk. The whole X-men cant even handle Juggernaut without that Psychi attack from Professor X!

DC World is more powerful than Marvels and Wonder Woman should beat the crap out of Storm!

Saying a match like Wonder Woman vs Storm is almost like saying Superman vs Storm cause Wonder Woman is almost as strong as Superman!

Im sorry, no contest! Wonder Woman by BUG STOMP!

Originally posted by leonheartmm
just wondering, but does wonderwoman have the ability to survive teperatures 4 to 7 times hotter then the surface of the sun?
and can she fly, run, move at over 300000 miles per second?

300,000 miles per second?????? The Speed of Light is 186,000 miles per second! Only the Flash and Superman One Million and possibly Superman Prime can go faster than the speed of light that I know of!

300,000 miles per second that is almost twice as fast of the Speed of light!

To leonheartmm,

Your stupidity astounds me. Thankfully, X-danny-X had the dignity to respond to you.

STORM.

storm

WW

Back up your words with arguments Muffin Man.

Great, now I have a craving for blueberry muffins.

Originally posted by x_danny_x

DC World is more powerful than Marvels and Wonder Woman should beat the crap out of Storm!

Saying a match like Wonder Woman vs Storm is almost like saying Superman vs Storm cause Wonder Woman is almost as strong as Superman!

Im sorry, no contest! Wonder Woman by BUG STOMP!

Radio boy has stated countless times that it would not be a physical brawl, therefore strength is nullified. Wonder Woman normally flies at Mach 3, but can achieve Mach 7 according to most websites. Even so, it would take considerabl acceleration. Wonder Woman does possess supersonic land speed, but does she possess substantial acceleration to knock out Storm in seconds,or before she is hit by a lightning bolt?

The statement about Wonder Woman having a force field seems to be soley Dracos opinon. I havent seen evidence of it on any website. Bullets don't hurt her? This site says otherwise.

http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?trd=041230163112

Draco's statements imply that she blocks bullets just for the hell of it. I hardly think this is the case. I would like to see a form of evidence (a comic book image, a reputable website, etc.) proving that Wonder Woman has the above abilities. If she does, she should be undefeatable.

Nevertheless, Lightning is much more lethal than any caliber bullet. When Storm uses lightning, she does so to incapacitate, not kill. Storm's power don't come from "focus," it comes from emotion; in fact, she must keep control over her emotions, as not to create huge storms. It would not take much effort, or "focus" to call upon lightning much more devastating, as Draco implies.

If Storm calls upon greater than Hurricane force winds, strength is not the only factor. Wonder Woman's mass is not proportionate to her strength, so the winds could quite easily lift her. Traction would be a large factor; if she has none, regardless of her strength, she will be tossed about if she encounters such force.

To Cosmic Cube aka Supessucks aka I hate DC so much I am going to argue against logic and root for Marvel no matter what,

Why? Why do so many people hate DC so much that they are completely ignoring the obvious? Wonder Woman is second in strength, speed, and durability to Superman. Imagine if Superman went up against Storm. Now imagine how he would defeat her. Wonder Woman would do the same. Not as fast, but the results would remain the same.

Bullets can't hurt Diana. Source : http://www.starnet-database.com/dbase_deo/profiles/wonder_woman/wonder_woman.html

Storm's lightening is lethal. To humans. Not Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman once took a hit from an concussive blast with an energy yield of a small nuclear weapon from behind. She was barely fazed from the attack. Diana's taken hits from Doomsday, White Martians, Superman, and Captain Marvel; she shrugged of the hits and kept fighting. She is second in durability to Superman. Period. Numerous weaker foes (i.e. Selene, Mystique, Saber-tooth, Forge, Cyclops, etc.) have been hit by her lightening and have gotten right back up.Back in the War of Gods storyline, Wonder Woman took on Shazam. Shazam endlessly pummeled her with magical lightning. Magic lightning is extremely more powerful than physical lightening. Diana withstood these attacks with ease.

The most powerful hurricane possible is a Category 5 storm. A Category 5 storm create winds with a maximum speed of 200 mph. It can destroy homes and entire buildings. Storm's limit is nature's limit. Storm cannot create a storm that is unnaturally impossible on Earth. For example, she cannot a hurricane with 1000 mph winds like that of those on the planet Jupiter. The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe : X-Men says so. The "mass is not proportionate to her strength, so the winds could quite easily lift her." argument is complete and utter bullshit. Imagine if Storm managed to trap Superman in a powerful hurricane. Do you all honestly think that he would suffocate and be lifted and tossed about like a ragdoll? No? Good. WW is a step below Superman. Superman is a ten. WW is a nine. That's why WW is commonly called Superman-lite or Superman in a skirt.

Storm does not stand a chance in hell against Wonder Woman. Period. This is as obvious as Thor vs. Archangel. The answer is readily apparent.

Cosmic Cube read this:
Limited Invulnerability: Her resistance to injury is not quite as great as any of the above mentioned metahumans. She has withstood considerable bludgeoning damage in the form of hand to hand combat with metahuman opponents (such as Superman and Captain Marvel) and physical damage (as seen when she is knocked back through two multi-story office buildings and then buried beneath them). She seems more vulnerable to energy attacks but she deflects most ranged attacks when she can. She has considerable resistance to human weaponries, although there are inconsistancies in her ability to resist injury, the variances are probably due to discrepancies in observation. Perhaps her ability varies with some as for yet unknown condition that strengthens or weakens her in relationship to her Pantheon of patron dieties.
Superhuman Reflexes: Wonder Woman possesses reflex abilities similar to lower-level speedsters such as Jesse Quick and Max Mercury, somewhere in the range of 8 to 20 times normal human reflexes with concentration. She, however, does not maintain her enhanced speed awareness due to the temporal difficulties such thinking causes her. She seems able to keep up with Jesse Quick, referencing her patron diety of speed and messenger of the gods, Hermes as the source of her powers.

Superspeed: It is unknown how long she can maintain a speedsterÕs average pace (which we clock at approximately 125 mph (2.08 miles/second) to 200 mph (3.3 mile/sec) innercity and 225 mph (3.75 miles/sec) to 500 mph (8.3 miles/sec) over land outside of cities). Since Wonder Woman lacks the speed aura of true speedsters, the environmental effects/disruptions that she causes probably prevent her from utilizing superspeed mobility as a common mode of travel. With bracers forged by Hephastes, Wonder Woman boosts her resistance to injury with her near-indestructible bracers. She is able to deflect attacks that might otherwise cause her considerable injury but she can only deflect attacks she is aware of.

Flight: Wonder Woman is capable of unassisted flight through an as yet unknown but probably magical means. She has been clocked at Mach 3 (2,100 mph, 35 miles per second) in flight and can be presumed to be much faster if she wanted to be. No reliable ceiling is known but atmospheric distubances occur at speeds greater than Mach 10 (7,000 mph, 116 miles/sec) so that is probably her limit in atmosphere as well. Her aerial manuevability is not as developed as aerial combatants such as Hawkman or the Black Condor, but she is a relatively capable aerial combatant as well.

Since Wonder Woman is resistant to high caliber weapons fire, she still performs the manuever to demoralize her opponents, test her skill or when confronted by weapons of greater potency.

I avoid to put in the list her strenght, is known that she has a great level of superstrenght, and she's one of the heavyweights of DCU, not as Orion, Supes or MM, but she's a badass girl.
Storm is not a match.I'm totally sick of fanboys.

P.S. Only area affects weapon or repulsor weapons like those of Iron Man works on Diana.Now you fanboys would put out that Storm will date Tony Stark to ask him to build for her a nice female version of Iron Man's armor so she can win.Or you'll say that the lightnings have repulsor effects.And bla bla bla

Amen K3VIL! 🙂

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Radio boy has stated countless times that it would not be a physical brawl, therefore strength is nullified. Wonder Woman normally flies at Mach 3, but can achieve Mach 7 according to most websites. Even so, it would take considerabl acceleration. Wonder Woman does possess supersonic land speed, but does she possess substantial acceleration to knock out Storm in seconds,or before she is hit by a lightning bolt?

The statement about Wonder Woman having a force field seems to be soley Dracos opinon. I havent seen evidence of it on any website. Bullets don't hurt her? This site says otherwise.

http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?trd=041230163112

Draco's statements imply that she blocks bullets just for the hell of it. I hardly think this is the case. I would like to see a form of evidence (a comic book image, a reputable website, etc.) proving that Wonder Woman has the above abilities. If she does, she should be undefeatable.

Nevertheless, Lightning is much more lethal than any caliber bullet. When Storm uses lightning, she does so to incapacitate, not kill. Storm's power don't come from "focus," it comes from emotion; in fact, she must keep control over her emotions, as not to create huge storms. It would not take much effort, or "focus" to call upon lightning much more devastating, as Draco implies.

If Storm calls upon greater than Hurricane force winds, strength is not the only factor. Wonder Woman's mass is not proportionate to her strength, so the winds could quite easily lift her. Traction would be a large factor; if she has none, regardless of her strength, she will be tossed about if she encounters such force.

why do you keep coming up with this lightning bolt that is just surely going to work???? I think you are giving that battle Marvel vs DC crossover too much thought.

You keep up with the lighting as this main holy weapon and I have seen by doing some research that Wonder Woman is just too damn much for Storm and that lighting of hers!

Have you seen how long it takes Storm to gather all that she needs to do Hurricans winds??? Too much and Wonder Woman is ready to go!

Dude, read the post of K3VIL to get a taste of Wonder Womans powers. What they are saying is what I found out through gathering information about Wonder Woman and she is a hell alot of stronger than I thought!

And seeing how she is able to hang toe to toe with the likes of the Hulk and Juggernaut, commen sense should tell you that Storm is at a huge disavantage to begin with.

You keep talking all about Storms power how it would hurt Wonder Woman yet fail to go into detail what Wonder Woman is able to accomplish with her powers.

Wow...looks like I got here too late. Guys, Storm cannot beat WW. And yes, while she would not want to engage Diana in a fist fight she is either going to have to evade her punches, or withstand them, neither of which she is capable. Storm is a pretty neat character n' all, but she outclassed by WW.

Originally posted by K3VIL

Superspeed: It is unknown how long she can maintain a speedsterÕs average pace (which we clock at approximately 125 mph (2.08 miles/second) to 200 mph (3.3 mile/sec) innercity and 225 mph (3.75 miles/sec) to 500 mph (8.3 miles/sec) over land outside of cities). Since Wonder Woman lacks the speed aura of true speedsters, the environmental effects/disruptions that she causes probably prevent her from utilizing superspeed mobility as a common mode of travel. With bracers forged by Hephastes, Wonder Woman boosts her resistance to injury with her near-indestructible bracers. She is able to deflect attacks that might otherwise cause her considerable injury but she can only deflect attacks she is aware of.

Flight: Wonder Woman is capable of unassisted flight through an as yet unknown but probably magical means. She has been clocked at Mach 3 (2,100 mph, 35 miles per second) in flight and can be presumed to be much faster if she wanted to be. No reliable ceiling is known but atmospheric distubances occur at speeds greater than Mach 10 (7,000 mph, 116 miles/sec) so that is probably her limit in atmosphere as well. Her aerial manuevability is not as developed as aerial combatants such as Hawkman or the Black Condor, but she is a relatively capable aerial combatant as well.

Since Wonder Woman is resistant to high caliber weapons fire, she still performs the manuever to demoralize her opponents, test her skill or when confronted by weapons of greater potency.

Draco aka Ultimate Wonder Woman Fanboy; please don't be so petty. I know you think no one can hurt Wonder Woman, but keep the personal attacks to a minimum. Your opinion of me means absolutely nothing to this argument.

K3VIL's argument is totally invalid. Obviously, another ill informed Wonder Woman fanatic published blatant idiocy on his website, thus spreading the plague of DC fanboy stupidity. The author of this information clearly has no inkling of mathematical ability, or common sense. In true DC fanboy spirit, he blunders aimlessly lamenting to Wonder Woman's ability. Mach 3 is equivalent to 35 miles per second? Try 35 miles per minute. 200 mile per hour equals 3.3 miles per second? Try 3.3 miles per minute; do the math. I figured K3VIL might have caught this one, but it is obvious from HIS other posts that he isn't mentally competent to recognize such a misnomer. Get your facts straight before you call someone a fanboy.

Yet Draco, in true fanboy fashion, avidly supports this fanatic worship of his favorite heroine, thus showing his level of intelligence and fanaticism. Your thesaurus fails to impress me.

I think allowing bullets to bounce off of Wonder Woman's chest would be a little more demoralizing to a villain than her frantically blocking them with her silver bracelets. But she couldn't do that, could she? She doesn't have invulnerability, or a healing factor; it's just poor writing, commonplace in most DC comics. But that is what those of mediocre intellegence find irresistable; poor logic. Perhaps I am one of the few Marvel readers who actually utilize this forum. I too, should also find something better to do with my time.

DC characters such as Wonder Woman are vastly overrated, and I for one agree with the outcome of this crossover.