Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The Mars Volta don't sound "wank" live, to me. Because all of the band play perfectly well, Cedric is the only person a bit off. Which is understandable really.Taking Back Sunday don't create anything close to being on par with The Mars Volta, they still manage to trash their own songs live.
-AC
the point wasnt the quality of music they make, its the fact that good bands dont necesarilly mean theyre great live.
when i saw Mars Volta there was no other word to describe them other than wank, out of time, squealing, everything was wrong lol. and my m8 saw At The Drive In and said they were even worse.
im not slating Mars Volta or ATDI, just saying they make great music, but cant pull it off live... theyre better than TBS no doubt about it, but ur slating TBS for the same problems MV and ATDI have
well how can u say 1 bands live experience is down to opinion and then say another is fact? u cant, thats just stupid
both are terrible live bands lol, simple as that...opinion doesnt come into it. either accept that both bands are terrible, fact, or accept that saying both bands are terrible live is an opinion...
At The Drive-In were better live than The Mars Volta. They performed their songs to an enjoyable degree, it sounded like the songs. They were a good live band. The Mars Volta, from what I've seen, aren't as good due to not having as many good members but even then they perform to a degree that's enjoyable, that's coming from someone who as you can see is big on live performance.
With Taking Back Sunday, I find the difference from in studio and on stage to be far too great. It's diabolical. I would easily put ATD-I and TMV over them in terms of live performance. Whilst you are correct, I can't place TBS as being a FACTUALLY crap live band, it's not scientifically provable nor is anything in music, but it's pretty much all there for the deducing. It's pretty obvious and it's as near-fact as you're gonna get. The live performance difference between At The Drive-In, The Mars Volta and Taking Back Sunday is fairly large. I can tolerate and enjoy listening to alot of live stuff but the former two bands, whilst listening to Taking Back Sunday live made my ears hurt.
"the point wasnt the quality of music they make, its the fact that good bands dont necesarilly mean theyre great live."
Yes but you're missing my point. Metallica don't sound EXACTLY like they do on record for the simple reason that James stands there recording his vocals, he doesn't have to stand there playing lightspeed riffs while singing. Just like Cedric probably doesn't completely spaz out in the studio as he does on stage, it obviously puts a difference on the performance. Taking Back Sunday don't do any of that, they pretty much stand there singing and walking around the stage. I find it terrible that all things considered, they sound THAT terrible for no good reason. It's actually nothing more than noise and drone. Cedric can sing well, Omar can play well. I don't think Taking Back Sunday do either.
-AC
A good band is about writing good songs
Being good live is a nice bonus, but not a neccasity for being a good band. It's kinda like listening to a band you haven't heard live on record, digging the songwriting, then hearing how rubbish they are live, and actually thinking the songwriting sucks from that point on... makes little sense. But thats just my opinion.
Sorry for bringing up that age-old argument, wasnt involved back then, I felt like doing my say on it.
By the way, I don't think ive ever heard a single TBS, but judging by this thread, I think Im not missing much. Doesn't seem like my cup of tea.
Yes, using what reference? The five K review that one writer gave it.
Not sure where the problem is there. I've actually seen writers in that magazine slate Taking Back Sunday to no end. Makes no difference to me, don't like the band. Other magazines have done worse. IE: Arctic Monkeys having the 5th best British rock album of all time.
But we've been here before.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, using what reference? The five K review that one writer gave it.Not sure where the problem is there. I've actually seen writers in that magazine slate Taking Back Sunday to no end. Makes no difference to me, don't like the band. Other magazines have done worse. IE: Arctic Monkeys having the 5th best British rock album of all time.
But we've been here before.
-AC
cant say i like taking back sunday either...in fact my dislike is on par with yours
and yes...we have been here before...and no...the ad doesn't say that "mr dooda" from kerrang says its the best album of 2006...it merely says that kerrang says its the best album of 2006
when you know...i know...and probably most of the people who write for kerrang know...that it isn't even the best album released this week
Originally posted by jaden101
cant say i like taking back sunday either...in fact my dislike is on par with yoursand yes...we have been here before...and no...the ad doesn't say that "mr dooda" from kerrang says its the best album of 2006...it merely says that kerrang says its the best album of 2006
when you know...i know...and probably most of the people who write for kerrang know...that it isn't even the best album released this week
Of course it says that, they can't just randomly have the reviewers name. Never do, it's always the publication title.
I have the issue where it got reviewed, one guy said it will be one of the best albums of 06. Entirely up to him. I disagree fully, but that's what a review is, an opinion. I'm sure there are people are Kerrang who agree and I know there are many who don't.
-AC
That wouldn't matter, would it?
In my opinion, Taking Back Sunday will never produce an album worthy of being the best album of any year, I think they're just another ex-scene band realising that the scene they come from is under constant scrutiny, and trying to make it as another run-of-the-mill rock band.
A fan of them however (like the aforementioned reviewer) may believe otherwise.
-AC