Originally posted by Darth Cain
I have a suspicion that its actually Palpatine who kills Windu. Anakin is an accessory because he chooses the wrong side, standing by while Mace rides the lightning. Supposedly, it alls comes down to Anakin making the wrong choice which leads to his downfall. The scene playing out that way would be a great counterpoint to the similar scene in ROTJ........
And we know Lucas likes to repeat elements and themes that way.
DC,
I would love the story better if that was true; partially because Mace is my favorite and two it would fit better into Anakin's downfall....
the way i've heard it is mace and palpatine go at it (lightning and all), a lot of dialogue (possibly both of them trying to convince anakin to choose sides), and then anakin decides and steps in for the final blow....but who knows?.....definitely seen pictures i would swear where mace being bombarded by sith lightning though.....
Anakin killing Mace and Younglings
If Anakin does indeed kill Mace and a lot more Jedis, could Yoda actually forgive him and watch in admiration of Anakin at the end of ROTJ? HE JUST KILLED HIS BEST FRIEND (MACE) (If not Mace, Ben Kenobi!) AND THE YOUNGLINGS! So he killed the emperor but Anakin did so much more personal evil to the Jedi Order! That balance of the force is way out of whack. Lucas said that there is balance when there is no evil jedi in the universe. BUT evil always exist. (How can the Jedi Order not know this?) The Chosen One getting rid of evil jedi once and for all? Like the Wachowskie brothers (sister?) in their Matrix movie, I think Lucas went overboard on philosophy.
read a really interesting article about this by some well known science fiction writer....can't remember his name or point you to the article (sorry).....he was annoyed at how irresponsible this aspect of the films was and drew comparisons with other mythological and science fiction stories....his point was that in these cases the hero is so much more important than everyone else that however many people they kill maim and torture it's all forgotten at the end as long as they're alright....i haven't done it justice here at all, but you get the point....
guiro72 is right.
I mean, the Emperor in ROTJ is probably at the end of his life anyhow...(like Yoda, he's strong with the force but not that strong) So if just Emperor needed to die to bring balance to the force, there doesn't need to be a chosen one at all. Time would have taken care of him. (Of course the Emperor could have trained his successor BUT evil exists at all times.) The amount of evil that Vader perpetuated during his life does not justify him standing next to Yoda at the end of ROTJ....it's kind of hard to stomach.
What if Hitler finds and kills Bin Laden, does Hitler deserve to be respected and pardoned for his many other crimes? I don't think so.
Re: Who kills who?
Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
Obviously, alot of people are going to die in RoTS. Its hard to say but here is my prediction...Grievous kills Windu
Obi Wan kills Grievous
Anakin kills Dooku
Dooku kills PadmeThese are just theories. Just to make note i know Boba Fett doesn not kill Mase Windu because he is only 13 at the time and Lucas himself said Boba will have less screentime in RoTS then he did in AoTC. I think Grievous will kill Windu just b/c I'd like to see that go down. I think Anakin kills Dooku and becomes Darth Vader in the process. I think Obi Wan kills Grievous b/c Grievous has to die somehow and who better to do it then Obi Wan (maybe Yoda)? And finally, and I think Dooku will kill Padme by order of his master, Palpatine, which will be all he needs to make Anakin turn to the dark side and seal the deal with his ultimate apprentace.
Just a thought, any other theories please post
Grevious kills Some Jedi
Obi Wan Kills Grevious
Anakin Kills Dooku
Anakin And Palpatine Kill Windu
Obi-Wan kills Grievous, and Anakin will kill Dooku(he needs to to take his place. Cause their are only to sith).
Windu, I first thought anakin. He would turn from the order and kill on of the leaders. Cause the order held him back after all and as a leader of the order who better for his rage to come crashing down on.
Then i was talking to a friend here. a real SW nut, Boba Fett...he watched Windu kill his father Jango. Sure he dont start achance agaisnt the master jedi but hey, thats why theirs decentergations (so i cant spell).
Adding to the fact that maybe they wanted windu alive, but Boba kills him leading to the "No decentergations"
Obi will kill Grevy, and grevy may kill some jedi but no one main(maybe some of the concil but no main you know). Cause after all this movie does have ALOT of people in it that will die. The jedi, Dooku, Grevy. and oh so many more.