Originally posted by ArekExcelsior2
Nimrod may have some nice powers on paper, but when you look at its success rate, it's nothing incredible. Bruce will probably be able to at least figure out some of its mechanics and crush it with raw force.
Not even Hulk can do that. Nimrod is not only VERY powerful, but also smart and tough as hell.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You are saying that Nimrod can do these things as though Hulk cannot. In the first post, Wonderman says that Hulk is in an "enormous rage," meaning he will be far stronger than Juggernaut, and equally, if not more regenerative than Nimrod. He will come into the fight far stronger than Nimrod, and as the two fight, Hulk's strength and durability will continue to grow. It may take quite some time and energy, but Hulk will relentlessly pound Nimrod until he is eventually destroyed.
Gravity beams, Hulk's gonna fight out of that? High frequency sonics to disrupt the nerve - he's not covering his ears after that attack. He'll be immobilized. Nimrod also has disintegration beams. Wonder if Hulk can regrow his own head.
Hulk seems, frankly, to be able to fight out of anything. Again, we're forgetting the Bruce angle. Nimrod requires TIME to be able to adapt to his opponents' techniques. If they don't have time, then Hulk has raw strength sufficient to keep Nimrod too busy to do any of his silly rays. If they do have time, Bruce can develop what he needs to deal with it. I am willing to grant that Nimrod's response time may be shorter than Hulk's development time. Note that, as much as I love Colossus, Colossus has an upper limit of strength. Yet, as the Marvel Directory so eloquently points out: "To date the Hulk has never apparently been provoked into demonstrating a maximum output of strength; hence, its upper limit remains a mystery." Nimrod may be able to deal with an opponent with set superhuman strength, but if it reaches into realms that nobody's seen yet and is possibly inherently variable/keyed to rage, I think he's losing fast. He'll underestimate the Hulk, gauge him, fail to get the right result, and lose because of it.
"Nothing incredible ? Beating Juggernaut like it was nothing, and kicking the ass of both X-Men and the Hellfire Club ?
Not even Hulk can do that. Nimrod is not only VERY powerful, but also smart and tough as hell."
Consider Nimrod is ostensibly from an incredibly advanced future and thus should by all rights have an exponential increase in weapons power, sophistication of materials, AI, etc., not to mention have seen an incredible array of mutants, yes, that's not very impressive. Let's face it: Some buff people have tried to take Hulk down and failed. I'm not a Hulk fanboy by any stretch of the imagination, but I happen to think that this one's even.
The X-Men and Lords Cardinal beat Nimrod. That's not ALL of the extended X-Men, mind you. They've beaten him a few times. This was supposed to be the nigh-ultimate Sentinel. I'm not impressed.
Originally posted by ArekExcelsior2
Let's face it: Some buff people have tried to take Hulk down and failed. I'm not a Hulk fanboy by any stretch of the imagination, but I happen to think that this one's even.
Let's do face it: Some buff people or person - mainly named Juggernaut - nearly drowned Hulk. I'd heardly call that failure.
And no, Nimrod doesn't "require" time to put up a shield or immobilize Hulk with high frequency sonics or gravity beams. You make it sound as if Nimrod's just standing their and analyzing, unable to act until he finishes his scan.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Nothing incredible ? Beating Juggernaut like it was nothing, and kicking the ass of both X-Men and the Hellfire Club ?Not even Hulk can do that. Nimrod is not only VERY powerful, but also smart and tough as hell.
He defeated Juggernaut with high frequency sonics. Banshee could do the same. Not impressive. Hulk can and has defeated Juggernaut. He can defeat Nimrod.
I hate when people quote marveldirectory.com.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
He defeated Juggernaut with high frequency sonics. Banshee could do the same. Not impressive. Hulk can and has defeated Juggernaut. He can defeat Nimrod.I hate when people quote marveldirectory.com.
😆 Since when did Banshee's sonic attack someone's nervous system? Nimrod attacked directly at Juggernaut's nerves and immobilized him. Banshee isn't replicating this attack. Especially since the attack seemed to be in a beam form not just your average sonic attack.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Not really. Currently, Hulk has Banner's intellect.
Right, is that why he tried to directly attack Onslaught? Shows how intelligent he is when he realized his victory was all in his head.
Cosmic Cube Beyonder posted it on the first two pages.What if Banshee screamed directly in Juggernaut's ear? That would have the same effects of Nimrod's attack. Right?
And your point is what? Hulk's going to be immuned to an attack that Juggernaut wasn't? Stop equating Banshee's attack to Nimrod's. If Banshee can actually pull of a sonic attack like Nimrod that would immobilize Juggernaut, Banshee would be able to do the same thing to Hulk.