So who's more powerfull Havok or Cyclops

Havok, hands down...not only regarding his power level, but he's a more capable leader. Cyclpos is impulsive and emotional, Havok takes the time to listen, cool and collective and a tremendously effective field operative.
He's also quick on his feet -pulled a Cannonball to get Annie and Carter clear from the wedding to Polaris, first time he'd ever used his powers like that
-kept Xorn from pulling China into a black hole (not sure how to explain what he did, but it worked) singlehandedly

havok cool and collective? cyclops impulsive and emotional? come on, seriously?

cyclops leads, he doesn't listen because he doesn't need to, he's one of the best tacticians and leaders in all of marvel. he's a better leader and operative than Havok.

"cyclops leads, he doesn't listen because he doesn't need to, he's one of the best tacticians and leaders in all of marvel. he's a better leader and operative than Havok."

I really dislike Cyclops coz he reminds me of that school teacher everyone had at school. "Do your work and don't question me even if you are actually better, coz I'm higher ranked than you are." Then again, I only dislike him and I don't hate him. Reason being, he has chickened out, made wrong decisions, made mistakes, slept around (never with Psylocke though) and generally been a bit of an ass. I HAAAAATE Captain America. Anyone on these boards who goes into any Comic Forum for any duration knows that. Reason being is that he actually does everything right and is shit. Never loses hardly. Actually thought he could fight Thanos one on one even after he watched Thanos single handedly defeat some of Earth's mightiest heroes.

I always thought Cyclops was never a supporting character though, or solo. Always leader of a group. It wouldn't really be the X-Men without him, if for reputation only.

-AC

reputation? pah...

he lost the woman he loves three times...

he was forced to send his only son to the future, he never saw him grow up...

he spent his whole life wondering about his parents, then he finds out that they were abducted by aliens...

finds out he has a brother...

shares his head with apocalypse for a bit, i'm sure that was pleasant...

and on top of that has to run and lead a team of mutants, including one who seems oblivious to the chain of command most of the time...

he pushes the x-men hard, but its for their own good, if they didnt train at all they'd never have saved the world... ever...

sure he's a bit of an ass... but if he isn't who else will be?

and yes he did sleep with psylocke 😄

"and yes he did sleep with psylocke"

FINE! Goddamn it PR! Haha.

-AC

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Havok, HAVok, HAVOK!!!!!!!!!! he is way mor powerful than cy and cy is just an ass

wow... great argument... 😛

I think Cyclops...

Plasme vs optic come on!!!!! 😄

you don't think optic is strong?

Optic is strong..but havok radioactive energy beam..plasma energy is stronger.

not neccessarily... we've seen havok's maximum power output before, we've only seen cyclops' once as far as i know...

you mean the time he shot Onslaught with the mega optic beam...that was quite a blast I must say.

it was... most people don't give him credit for it though...

I was quite a blast..I don't Magneto could have taken it..not that I believe Scott could beat Magnus or anything.

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that blast is a once off, he'd need to recharge after just one of those... i don't think we'll see him use it that often if at all...

Gambit has that same problem..they can only do big attacks so often..all mutants have that problem..or at least most of them.

true, but i bet there are very few marvel characters who can take a blast like that and not be hurt...

I agree even the Hulk would scream like a b*tch if he was caught in the super Scott Summer Special beam blast!