how the hell did this not get closed? The mods usually don't allow political topics. especially a laughable claim like this. Jetspike, either your one of those soft money weirdos or just a severely misinformed kook. Don't get me wrong, two years ago i would have said that US Grant, Hebert Hoover, and Warren Harding were worse than Bush, but after four years of this shit who am I kidding? I hate both partiesand think they are way too similar (join the Green Wedge!!!) but even I understand that a vote for Bush is a vote for a theocratic police state with mobile ovens. I am willing to bet money that if Bush is elected president in November, by 2006, certain people will start to disappear. Even if Kerry is elected, there will probably be some "crisis" that will delay or cancel the innageration. as for lying, well, on the one hand, opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one, on the otherhand, I don't like shit blown in my face.