Dr. Doom vs. the DCU

Originally posted by Gregory
Any Cloak and Dagger fans here? Because I'm remembering a time when Cloak and freaking Dagger (hardly first tier heroes) thwart Dr. Doom's plans. I'm pretty sure the accumulated might of the DCU would be up to the task.

That hardly means anything. Squirrel-girl friggin thwarted Dr. Doom's plans, and Galactus couldn't. Neither could Silver Surfer. All this says is that the outcome is unpredictable with the Good Doctor. He could conquer the DCU, or he could get taken out by a kick to the nads from friggin White Rabbit.

Ugh...Squirrel-Girl...friggin writers...

Against the entire DC universe: NO.

Against DC Earth: YES!

DC Earth might be powerful but their weakest are easily exploitable.
Superman = Kryptonite
GL = Color Yellow
Etc.

Lex, Brainiac, Polaris, etc. can beat down DC Earth heroes. Why can't Doom?

As for Spectre, Doom beat Beyonder. The Presence isn't going to endown Spectre with unlimited powers just to beat a planetary despot like Doom.

Originally posted by Beyonder
GL = Color Yellow

Not any more.

I'm not a Marvel expert, but am I not right in thinking that Dr. Doom has not yet permenantly conquered the Marvel universe? And people are always complaining that DC heroes are too powerful, whereas Marvel heroes aren't. Unless I'm doing the math wrong, there is no reason to think that Doom would have better luck with the DCU (and no, "Marvel is cooler than DC" is not a valid reason).

Doom's already taken over Marvel Earth, three times, and gave it right back.

Kyle Rayner's the only one who's no longer week to yellow, but it's not like Doom can't exploit any other weaknesses of his, as in emotional or anything like that. And yeah, DC's characters are too damn powerful, it's not like Doom can't deal with this though. I'm sure he'd be somewhat aware of this, and spend plenty of time doing his homework. And like Beyonder said, most of DC's heroes' weaknesses are easily exploitable. And yeah, the entire DC universe, he can't do it, not at first at least, against the DC Earth, I don't see why he couldn't. And that accursed Richards isn't there to foil his plans, so that helps plenty.

And, Marvel's governments, and Reed Richards, have done a few simulations, and they all show that if Doom wanted to take over the world again, he could and would.

If Batman can take down the JLA, surely Dr Dooom, who's much smarter, with more resources and more devious would have as little, if not less, trouble doing so. And when the JLA goes down, the JSA, Teen Titans follow shortly thereafter.

Of course, this is assuming Dr Doom has a lot of preparation time.

Naturally, Doom would take all the time he needs, he's not foolish enough to jump into world domination until he knows what he's dealing with.

Originally posted by Tron
Doom's already taken over Marvel Earth, three times, and gave it right back.

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And, Marvel's governments, and Reed Richards, have done a few simulations, and they all show that if Doom wanted to take over the world again, he could and would.

Dr. Doom is the man. Simple as that.

Originally posted by Krissy Von Doom
[B]If Batman can take down the JLA, surely Dr Dooom, who's much smarter, with more resources and more devious would have as little, if not less, trouble doing so. And when the JLA goes down, the JSA, Teen Titans follow shortly thereafter.

Except that Batman had the advantage of working with the JLA for years and becoming intimately aquainted with every aspect of their powers and characters. And ultimately, remember, Tower of Bable was not the end of the JLA; Batman may have taken them down, but they got back up again in a hurry.

And more resources? In Marvel, no doubt. In the DCU, he'd have nothing.

Correction: He'd start off with nothing. He work on his resources over his time there, and utilize them as soon as he was ready.

Gregory

And more resources? In Marvel, no doubt. In the DCU, he'd have nothing.

He had nothing to begin with in Marvel. Then he got his armor and tech...then an entire nation...the world a few times...stole powers of cosmic gods time and time again (including the Beyonder)...

He'll conquer DC much faster since he already has his armor and knowledge acquired over the years. Gathering the resources won't take that long - not like it did for him when he started out in Marvel.

What do you think would happen if somebody transported Dr. Doom to the DC universe?

Id say Doom would take over, but not within a year. I think it would take him at least 2 years, but no more than 4.

Yeah Doom would take over... but hed save Batman as his sidekick or atleast his ally. He'd like Batman for his independence, intelligence, and keen.
Superman and Latern would be in the way so Doom would get rid of them at once.

DOOM would do about as well as he has always done in Marvel.He is still DOOM and would have an impact but he also has a MUCH larger amount of massively powerful heroes to deal with and unlike MU couldnt just nuke NYC and kill 99% of the super hero population

lol. Marvel does make it seem like NY is the only place to fight crime sometimes.

The only person in DC I can see beating Doom is Darkside. They would probably work together but Doom is more likely to get greedy

Only person...?

There are plenty of people who could beat Doom in DC.

He's not some kind of God - he's just very smart and has plenty or technology.

If the Fantastic Four can beat him, so can the JLA.

Heck - even the Titans. 😄

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Only person...?

There are plenty of people who could beat Doom in DC.

He's not some kind of God - he's just very smart and has plenty or technology.

If the Fantastic Four can beat him, so can the JLA.

Heck - even the Titans. 😄

Magneto... beat the Justice League...?

😆

When GL surrounds him in a cage that inhibits any magnetic power and then J'Onnz rips every memory out of Magnetos mind, before Superman vapourises him into ashes with heat vision, I don't see Mags posing much of a threat.

I'm not underestimating Doom - I respect him and know his power.

I also know that he's beaten by someone stretchy, someone who can't be seen, someone who's big and orange, and someone who's often on fire.

The JLA are superior to the Fantastic Four, both in terms of numbers and magnitude of their powers.

Doom would be soundly beaten.

And yes, I apologise, Titans would probably fall into a trap of his or something. Though I do think they have enough power to do it, I think they lack the experience compared to the JLA or the F4.

Originally posted by brainchild81
What do you think would happen if somebody transported Dr. Doom to the DC universe?

Doom would make about as much impact in DC as he does in Marvel, possibly even less. Goodness, even the Titans (the Comicbook Titans not the Cartoon Teen Titans) could take Doom down, and even Young Justice could have a fair shot.
The JLA would make Doom look like a punk, and probably wouldn't even bother dealing with him themselves. It would be beneath them.
At the end of the day Dr Doom is an extremely smart very cool dude, but if he tried to be naughty in DC world he would quickly be put in his place. Goodness, Deathstroke could probably take him out so fast that it would be shameful.