thanks for the (necessarily truncated 😠 ) post JP....
look, i shouldn't even be here, i should have been asleep a couple hours ago....so 20 bad threads is a nightmare at times like this.....but my real point to gangularis is this....you obviously haven't really been paying attention to the whole thing to know how it's been the last couple of weeks, it's not a problem with noobs, i like 'em usually (they're so inoccent and untainted) and i am one myself, PVS has admitted his noobie status and so have many others in this debate......the point is this one group of people we've been referring to have actually been quite rude and hostile at times, posting threads just to abuse people, and for no other reason - no point, no information, no new ideas....i'm over it to be honest, but i may not be checking in here as often in future, because it's just not as pleasant and fulfilling an experience as it used to be, depending who's online these days....i only read the aicn forums every once in a while to wind myself up out of sick curiosity, but i genuinely used to enjoy coming here, and it's the only forum i've ever posted in, despite years of serial lurking for this reason....well, from the looks of it those days might be coming to an end.....peace.....