If you had these choices.....

Started by BackFire4 pages

I really can't fathem the purpose of life being being remembered. In all honesty I'd definately rather be forgotten then commit a bad act that would hurt someone else.

The fear of being forgotten is and old fear, that probably plauges everyone at some point or another. The thing is, you can't really allow that too throw logic out the window and corrupt you into think that doing a bad deed and being remembered is actually better then living a good life and being forgotten.

I don't think that just because you don't care whether or not you are remembered means that you think that your life is pointless, that's ignorant to the point of being offensive. The real purpose of life, is to be happy, that's what it comes down too in the end. And how will being remembered when you are dead make you happy? You won't even know if you are remembered or not, you'll be in the ground rotting away.

Everyone wants to be remembered in some way or another, but if you really want to be remembered, you should find a talent and use that to become famous and be remembered for something good. Or just take alot of photographs and so in a way you can live on forever.

Alot of you think that not caring about what people think about you in the future, after your dead makes your life pointless, I think it's the exact oposite. If that what defines you're happiness in life, what people think of you after you're dead and gone, then that means your current life is pretty pointless, because you should be worrying more about what is going on in your life now.

What if people think negatively of you while you lived your life without doing one bad thing, and you are unable to defend yourself because you are dead. That's just as bad as commiting a bad deed and being remembered for it.

I care what people think of me, and hell call me vain, but it's a human instinct, obviously you want people to like and appreciate you, and remember you. And of course I won't be going out of my way to do bad deeds to be remembered, but I would much rather be remembered for some trivial small bad thing, then not remembered at all, this doesn't mean I am off to commit mass murder 🙄

Originally posted by BackFire
I really can't fathem the purpose of life being being remembered. In all honesty I'd definately rather be forgotten then commit a bad act that would hurt someone else.

The fear of being forgotten is and old fear, that probably plauges everyone at some point or another. The thing is, you can't really allow that too throw logic out the window and corrupt you into think that doing a bad deed and being remembered is actually better then living a good life and being forgotten.

I don't think that just because you don't care whether or not you are remembered means that you think that your life is pointless, that's ignorant to the point of being offensive. The real purpose of life, is to be happy, that's what it comes down too in the end. And how will being remembered when you are dead make you happy? You won't even know if you are remembered or not, you'll be in the ground rotting away.

Everyone wants to be remembered in some way or another, but if you really want to be remembered, you should find a talent and use that to become famous and be remembered for something good. Or just take alot of photographs and so in a way you can live on forever.

Alot of you think that not caring about what people think about you in the future, after your dead makes your life pointless, I think it's the exact oposite. If that what defines you're happiness in life, what people think of you after you're dead and gone, then that means your current life is pretty pointless, because you should be worrying more about what is going on in your life now.

Ok, first and foremost, not everyones purpose in life is to be happy. If you read Stoics, Epicureans and Sceptics theories, they all give different account to whats the purpose in life, you may speak for yourself, but not ''everyone'' since you dont know that.

Second of all you dont know what happenes when you die for sure, therefore you cant say that either.

Not remembering me when im gone, for me would mean that i have done nothing worth while in my entire life! Maybe to you it isnt, i dont know,i dont care, but for me, thats how it is.

Hitler, or Mussolinin or Stalin all had a goal in mind, to change or improve one thing or another, it only happens that they are remembered for something bad.

Re: If you had these choices.....

~ Be able to bring about a lasting world peace, or eliminate all hunger and disease?

First one, cause it might result in the second some day, and the first is more important.

~ Always have to say everything on your mind or never speak again?
First, I'd hate it if I coudln't talk anyomore and I usualy speak my mind already

~ Have sex with the person you hate for the rest of your life, or never have sex again?
bit of a hard choice, and I don't really hate anyone

~ Overthrow a dictatorship or lead one?
Overthrow a dictatorship. Power to the ppl long live Democracy

~ Know it all or have it all?
Know it all, knowledge is more important than wealth, and knowledge leads to wealth 😄

~ Be forgotten by everyone completely, when you die, or be remembered for something bad?

Be forgotten, I don't care.

Silv - The fact is, if anyone is going to remember you after you are dead, the bad deed you do can't be trivial, people won't remember a trivial thing. The only really bad deed that will garantee people remembering you, is killing many people.

Lil - You're right, I don't know what happens when we die. But the fact remains, if you do do something bad to be remembered, that is breaking laws of just about every religion out there. Not only for conciously doing bad deeds, but the reason you are doing them would be extremely selfish and vein. Therefor, you would almost garantee a spot in hell should you do something like that. Either way, it's not the right attitude to have.

Also, all those tyrants you spoke of were obviously insane, and are only remembered for killing alot of innocent people for their evil propoghanda.

I would rather prefer to eliminate all hunger and disease. That way i wont have to wear a rubber, Yippeeeeeeee.

Originally posted by BackFire

Lil - You're right, I don't know what happens when we die. But the fact remains, if you do do something bad to be remembered, that is breaking laws of just about every religion out there. Not only for conciously doing bad deeds, but the reason you are doing them would be extremely selfish and vein. Therefor, you would almost garantee a spot in hell should you do something like that. Either way, it's not the right attitude to have.

Yes, I agree!

But I found it difficult to just pick one...remebered/forgoten...i found it difficult to pick one...i dont want to remebered for bad things, but i dont want to be forgoten either. I guess that was my point..

Originally posted by silver_tears
Precisely how is this superficial?
It would be so, if we wanted to be remembered for our looks 🙄
And another thing, she did not say Hitler in specific, she said for doing something bad, there are certain degrees of that, not everyone commits mass murders to be remembered 🙄

and we are not forcing our viewpoints on you, but that may be a purpose to our life, to be remembered, that does not mean you have to think the same way.


it's superficial because you'd limit your life purpose merely to being remembered.
You interact with people everyday...ofcourse you'll be remembered. AS an historical figure or simply by your family, it doesn't matter. It's how you're remembered, that matters. That's why the hitler line is way off course 😉
It's what you do with your life that counts...the remembering is a mere effect to that.

I agree. Probably more good work for this world has been done by forgotten people than remembered ones. Do you think they would think that their work was pointless because no-one remembers who they are? I doubt that, that would merely be selfishness.

Besides, how many people are truly going to be remembered, forever? The future is a big place. Memory is fleeting and counts for little- but achievement, objectively, lasts for all time.

pointless thread 👇

Should be closed.

The only intellegint posts came from BackFire.

why should this be closed, it isn;'t pointless it is a nice debate and ppl haven't gone nuts, it hasn't gone over a 100 posts and is off topic so this will prolly remain open

there are multiple inteligent posts, xenafan, if you can accept different views than your own, on the subject

It is just my opinion that this thread is pointless. BackFire ( who is a real moderator ) has been leniant so far. He has been kind to this and if he closest this, it would be a wise decision.

it would be against the forum rules. and I dont think BF will close this

Originally posted by Xena fan
It is just my opinion that this thread is pointless. BackFire ( who is a real moderator ) has been leniant so far. He has been kind to this and if he closest this, it would be a wise decision.

why mention moderators...we all talk in here, moderator or not...No need to close it, if there's nothing wrong with it....so no-one's making us a service by keeping it open.

it won't be closed it didn't break any rules

yeah why is it pointless? 😖

I find you mentioning BF as a "real mod" to troll Fire annoying ✅

well it is slightly annoying, but I reckon she means global moderator by it.

If you want to discuss a thread to be closed, Xena, do it in private, NOT in the thread- that is a waste of everyone's time.

As it is- no, there is absolutely no chance of this thread being closed based on the posts so far.